Would anyone be interested in helping me create a Balkan wars (1912-1913) scenario?

Kyriakos · Mar 30, 2009, 12:02 PM

I am not good at creating scenarios, so i would rather leave that part to someone else. However i am willing to provide graphics for it, buildings, cities etc

Wyrmshadow has made some great units of the era, and there are some more we could use.

Cimbri · Mar 30, 2009, 12:42 PM

What kind of map do you have in mind?

Kyriakos · Mar 30, 2009, 03:02 PM

Hm, probably a small one, an edited version of the one used in Yoda's byzantine scenario might work

Ozymandias · Mar 30, 2009, 04:54 PM

My time is suddenly very tight, but I think I have an OOB ("Order Of Battle") for those conflicts if that would prove helpful.

Best,

Oz

Kyriakos · Mar 30, 2009, 05:10 PM

Order of Battle? Is that a list of the battles that took place?

I really need someone who would do all the editor work. Of course it will be his scenario, i am merely helping with gfx and ideas

Ozymandias · Mar 30, 2009, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varwnos

Order of Battle? Is that a list of the battles that took place?

I really need someone who would do all the editor work. Of course it will be his scenario, i am merely helping with gfx and ideas

No, my dear fellow

"OOB" is a list of the military units involved in any particular conflict.

Best,

Oz

Kyriakos · Apr 02, 2009, 04:57 AM

Well, no one wants to help?

CiaranB123 · Apr 02, 2009, 09:36 AM

I could help but I don't have enough time to do the stuff with the editor but other than that, I can help in any way (apart from gfx as well).

Ozymandias · Apr 02, 2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varwnos

Well, no one wants to help?

*ahem* See my posts above. Again, I am very time constrained, but I can provide OOB, plus leader names, help with the tech tree, maybe kicking the tires.

IMO (Map + OOB + Units + gfx) = (Scenario/Mod v1.0)

What other sort of help do you seek, my friend?

Best,

Oz

Kyriakos · Apr 02, 2009, 09:56 AM

Thank you

Well i am lazy, i am looking for the sort of help that would be along the lines of someone willing to do the entire scenario and only need ideas and gfx

I realise that this is very difficult to achieve though

Ozymandias · Apr 02, 2009, 10:12 AM

Do you at least have a map which can be readily modified?

-O.

Kyriakos · Apr 02, 2009, 10:20 AM

I can modify Yoda's map, in his scenario about the Byzantine empire. We dont need Italy, but perhaps more of the north can be added so as to have more of Romania

We dont need Egypt either. The levant could be represented with one city that produces units, since in the first Balkan war the state of the ottoman railways was primitive and so they thought that they could transport troops from the rest of the empire by the sea, but the greek navy was stronger than the ottoman one so that attempt failed as well.

An idea i had back when i was trying to make the scenario on my own was that the ottoman empire could be split into two nations, the european ottoman empire (Thessalonike as the capital) and the rest + parts of eastern thrace. In this way the balkan league can be in locked war with the european ottoman empire, but not with the rest of it, so that a peace can be achieved with them.

Ozymandias · Apr 02, 2009, 10:30 AM

Okay, I'll take a look at Yoda's map; try to find the info I have on those wars; mull over ideas (yours about splitting the Ottomans is interesting) including a tech tree - I presume we're talking about one Era?

Yours In Crime

,

Oz

Kyriakos · Apr 02, 2009, 10:58 AM

Thank you Ozymandias

Perhaps there could be two eras, the first era being the first balkan war, and then the second.

The map could be like this, with perhaps some more sea to the east so that the city or cities in the Levant can be placed

Ozymandias · Apr 02, 2009, 11:33 AM

I think that would have to be 2 different scenarios - Oops! Sorry. Must run. More later.

-Oz

Kyriakos · Apr 02, 2009, 12:56 PM

The Ottoman-Italian war was going on in 1912 as well. I will have to read up more on these conflicts

Although i guess that the italians could still be left out. There was also an albanian revolution. Albania became a country officially in 1913, due to the intervention of Austria-Hungary and Italy.

Ozymandias · Apr 02, 2009, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varwnos

The Ottoman-Italian war was going on in 1912 as well. I will have to read up more on these conflicts

Although i guess that the italians could still be left out. There was also an albanian revolution. Albania became a country officially in 1913, due to the intervention of Austria-Hungary and Italy.

Then the map shall have to encompass the area shown.

Best,

Oz

Kyriakos · Apr 02, 2009, 05:00 PM

It would be tricky the keep Italy from attacking the balkan nations though.

Ozymandias · Apr 02, 2009, 05:21 PM

Interesting Google timeline with links.

Ozymandias · Apr 02, 2009, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varwnos

It would be tricky the keep Italy from attacking the balkan nations though.

The Bulgarian army seems to have been quite "puissant" to borrow the medieval term. I'll look further into the OOB etc. but I suspect a hypothetical Italo-Bulagarian clash would give the Italians a run for their lire.

Best,

Oz

Mar 30, 2009, 12:02 PM	#1
Kyriakos Writer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 20,004	Would anyone be interested in helping me create a Balkan wars (1912-1913) scenario? I am not good at creating scenarios, so i would rather leave that part to someone else. However i am willing to provide graphics for it, buildings, cities etc Wyrmshadow has made some great units of the era, and there are some more we could use. __________________ βῆ δ᾿ ἀκέων παρὰ θῖνα πολυφλοίσϐοιο θαλάσσης· (he walked silently on the edge of the loudly heard wave-breaking sea) Iliad A:34 CivIII my graphics library 28x 1x Decade Award

Mar 30, 2009, 12:42 PM	#2
Cimbri Deity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cold Harbor, VA Posts: 2,518	What kind of map do you have in mind? __________________ Scenario: American Civil War (1861–1865)

Mar 30, 2009, 03:02 PM	#3
Kyriakos Writer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 20,004	Hm, probably a small one, an edited version of the one used in Yoda's byzantine scenario might work __________________ βῆ δ᾿ ἀκέων παρὰ θῖνα πολυφλοίσϐοιο θαλάσσης· (he walked silently on the edge of the loudly heard wave-breaking sea) Iliad A:34 CivIII my graphics library 28x 1x Decade Award

Mar 30, 2009, 04:54 PM	#4
Ozymandias Civ3 Modding Archivist Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The lone and level sands Posts: 8,464	My time is suddenly very tight, but I think I have an OOB ("Order Of Battle") for those conflicts if that would prove helpful. Best, Oz __________________ "God of our fathers, known of old -- Lord of our far-flung battle line -- Beneath whose awful hand we hold Dominion over palm and pine -- Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet, Lest we forget -- lest we forget!" May you be at peace, General 666

Mar 30, 2009, 05:10 PM	#5
Kyriakos Writer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 20,004	Order of Battle? Is that a list of the battles that took place? I really need someone who would do all the editor work. Of course it will be his scenario, i am merely helping with gfx and ideas __________________ βῆ δ᾿ ἀκέων παρὰ θῖνα πολυφλοίσϐοιο θαλάσσης· (he walked silently on the edge of the loudly heard wave-breaking sea) Iliad A:34 CivIII my graphics library 28x 1x Decade Award

Apr 02, 2009, 04:57 AM	#7
Kyriakos Writer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 20,004	Well, no one wants to help? __________________ βῆ δ᾿ ἀκέων παρὰ θῖνα πολυφλοίσϐοιο θαλάσσης· (he walked silently on the edge of the loudly heard wave-breaking sea) Iliad A:34 CivIII my graphics library 28x 1x Decade Award

Apr 02, 2009, 09:36 AM	#8
CiaranB123 That guy Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 409	I could help but I don't have enough time to do the stuff with the editor but other than that, I can help in any way (apart from gfx as well).

Apr 02, 2009, 09:56 AM	#10
Kyriakos Writer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 20,004	Thank you Well i am lazy, i am looking for the sort of help that would be along the lines of someone willing to do the entire scenario and only need ideas and gfx I realise that this is very difficult to achieve though __________________ βῆ δ᾿ ἀκέων παρὰ θῖνα πολυφλοίσϐοιο θαλάσσης· (he walked silently on the edge of the loudly heard wave-breaking sea) Iliad A:34 CivIII my graphics library 28x 1x Decade Award

Apr 02, 2009, 10:12 AM	#11
Ozymandias Civ3 Modding Archivist Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The lone and level sands Posts: 8,464	Do you at least have a map which can be readily modified? -O. __________________ "God of our fathers, known of old -- Lord of our far-flung battle line -- Beneath whose awful hand we hold Dominion over palm and pine -- Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet, Lest we forget -- lest we forget!" May you be at peace, General 666

Apr 02, 2009, 10:20 AM	#12
Kyriakos Writer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 20,004	I can modify Yoda's map, in his scenario about the Byzantine empire. We dont need Italy, but perhaps more of the north can be added so as to have more of Romania We dont need Egypt either. The levant could be represented with one city that produces units, since in the first Balkan war the state of the ottoman railways was primitive and so they thought that they could transport troops from the rest of the empire by the sea, but the greek navy was stronger than the ottoman one so that attempt failed as well. An idea i had back when i was trying to make the scenario on my own was that the ottoman empire could be split into two nations, the european ottoman empire (Thessalonike as the capital) and the rest + parts of eastern thrace. In this way the balkan league can be in locked war with the european ottoman empire, but not with the rest of it, so that a peace can be achieved with them. __________________ βῆ δ᾿ ἀκέων παρὰ θῖνα πολυφλοίσϐοιο θαλάσσης· (he walked silently on the edge of the loudly heard wave-breaking sea) Iliad A:34 CivIII my graphics library 28x 1x Decade Award

Apr 02, 2009, 10:30 AM	#13
Ozymandias Civ3 Modding Archivist Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The lone and level sands Posts: 8,464	Okay, I'll take a look at Yoda's map; try to find the info I have on those wars; mull over ideas (yours about splitting the Ottomans is interesting) including a tech tree - I presume we're talking about one Era? Yours In Crime , Oz __________________ "God of our fathers, known of old -- Lord of our far-flung battle line -- Beneath whose awful hand we hold Dominion over palm and pine -- Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet, Lest we forget -- lest we forget!" May you be at peace, General 666

Apr 02, 2009, 10:58 AM	#14
Kyriakos Writer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 20,004	Thank you Ozymandias Perhaps there could be two eras, the first era being the first balkan war, and then the second. The map could be like this, with perhaps some more sea to the east so that the city or cities in the Levant can be placed __________________ βῆ δ᾿ ἀκέων παρὰ θῖνα πολυφλοίσϐοιο θαλάσσης· (he walked silently on the edge of the loudly heard wave-breaking sea) Iliad A:34 CivIII my graphics library 28x 1x Decade Award

Apr 02, 2009, 11:33 AM	#15
Ozymandias Civ3 Modding Archivist Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The lone and level sands Posts: 8,464	I think that would have to be 2 different scenarios - Oops! Sorry. Must run. More later. -Oz __________________ "God of our fathers, known of old -- Lord of our far-flung battle line -- Beneath whose awful hand we hold Dominion over palm and pine -- Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet, Lest we forget -- lest we forget!" May you be at peace, General 666

Apr 02, 2009, 12:56 PM	#16
Kyriakos Writer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 20,004	The Ottoman-Italian war was going on in 1912 as well. I will have to read up more on these conflicts Although i guess that the italians could still be left out. There was also an albanian revolution. Albania became a country officially in 1913, due to the intervention of Austria-Hungary and Italy. __________________ βῆ δ᾿ ἀκέων παρὰ θῖνα πολυφλοίσϐοιο θαλάσσης· (he walked silently on the edge of the loudly heard wave-breaking sea) Iliad A:34 CivIII my graphics library 28x 1x Decade Award

Apr 02, 2009, 05:00 PM	#18
Kyriakos Writer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Thessalonike, Greece Posts: 20,004	It would be tricky the keep Italy from attacking the balkan nations though. __________________ βῆ δ᾿ ἀκέων παρὰ θῖνα πολυφλοίσϐοιο θαλάσσης· (he walked silently on the edge of the loudly heard wave-breaking sea) Iliad A:34 CivIII my graphics library 28x 1x Decade Award

Apr 02, 2009, 05:21 PM	#19
Ozymandias Civ3 Modding Archivist Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The lone and level sands Posts: 8,464	Interesting Google timeline with links. __________________ "God of our fathers, known of old -- Lord of our far-flung battle line -- Beneath whose awful hand we hold Dominion over palm and pine -- Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet, Lest we forget -- lest we forget!" May you be at peace, General 666

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