Clashes in Tehran as Hashemi Rafsanjani warns regime

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Election Crisis Fuels Doubt, Cleric Says

Iran's Former President Calls for Release of Protesters as Well as Fewer Restrictions on News Media


TEHRAN, July 17 -- Thousands of opposition demonstrators took to the streets in defiance of a government crackdown Friday after a powerful cleric, former president Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, publicly called for the release of people arrested in protests following last month's disputed election and urged authorities to ease restrictions on the news media.
Addressing a huge crowd in a sermon at traditional Friday prayers, Rafsanjani issued an appeal for national unity but stopped short of endorsing the officially proclaimed landslide reelection victory of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, an omission that served to further widen a rift within the country's Shiite Muslim hierarchy over the results of the June 12 election.
Among those attending the sermon at Tehran University were opposition leaders Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karrubi, who ran against Ahmadinejad. Mousavi, 67, a former prime minister who says he was cheated of victory through massive vote-rigging, was making a rare public appearance since security forces cracked down on demonstrations in support of his claims and arrested hundreds of protesters and opposition supporters. Karrubi, 71, a Shiite cleric and former parliamentary speaker, was roughed up by plainclothes security forces on his way to the sermon, his Web site reported.
Shortly after the sermon, thousands of Mousavi supporters demonstrated around Tehran University.
Members of the elite Revolutionary Guard Corps and the pro-government Basij militia used tear gas and batons to disperse the demonstrators, eyewitnesses reported.
"After tear gas was used outside the university, the wind blew it in and [it affected] everyone, including Basijis and cops," a witness said. "People started coughing and tears started running out of their eyes. This irritated everyone, and people were saying, 'This is a shame and a disgrace that prayers are being tear gassed.' "
Holding up posters of Mousavi, thousands gathered on Enghelab, or Revolution, Street and shouted "Death to the dictator" and "Illegitimate government, leave," witnesses said. In his sermon, Rafsanjani, 74, who was one of the main founders of the Islamic Republic and served as president from 1989 to 1997, said the country faces a "crisis" and appeared to back the legitimacy of Mousavi's protest movement.
"I hope that today's Friday prayers will be a turning point for us to pass this crisis," he said, "and that once again we will be able to witness healthy competition and the choosing of whoever the people want."
He strongly supported several of Mousavi's key demands and called for a rebuilding of trust as he launched a proposal to solve the crisis. He called for more freedom of speech and less government control over the heavily restricted local and foreign news media.
"We should not limit our media, which have got legal permission for their activities," he said. "They should be able to work within the framework of the laws."
And he said unity should be achieved by allowing different political opinions.
"There should be a climate where people can speak their mind and where reason prevails," he said, asking for political groups to act within the law.
Rafsanjani made clear that he has consulted influential clerics and experienced politicians who share his views. But his comments suggested that he remains at odds with the country's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who in a June 19 sermon at Friday prayers urged all Iranians to fully accept Ahmadinejad's victory, strongly denounced the protests and rejected allegations of vote-rigging.

(From: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/17/AR2009071702764.html)

Also see the Ask Iranians thread here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=8272984
 
Michael Jackson coverage died.
 
Thank god for that. As for Iran, i believe they should revolt.

What sort of person are you, celebrating the death of a news cycle?
 
I really hope this wasn't the big ace Rafsanjani had up his sleeves. When I hear that plots are being cooked and whatnot, I expect more than some angry words and protests that dwarf in comparison to the ones for Mousavi.
 
If you'd actually read the OP you might have noticed that Mousavi actually attended, appearing in public again.
 
If you'd actually read the OP you might have noticed that Mousavi actually attended, appearing in public again.

I did read it. What does Mousavi showing up have to do with my point? These protests are still nothing compared to the initial ones following the election. I was just hoping for something more clever than this from Rafsanjani.

Maybe it's the beginning of something bigger, but it doesn't feel that way.
 
I did read it. What does Mousavi showing up have to do with my point? These protests are still nothing compared to the initial ones following the election. I was just hoping for something more clever than this from Rafsanjani.

Maybe it's the beginning of something bigger, but it doesn't feel that way.
I dunno, for more than a month after the election, the crowds around Tehran University seemed huge. The last time there was this kind of dissent, the government quashed it in less than a week.

Also, Rafsanjani is the Donald Trump of Iran. He has as much to lose as anyone if the entire system falls apart, so I seriously doubt he's going to sit up on that pulpit and call for open rebellion.
 
Iran needs a regime change. All they have now is aging politicians who's been in power before.
Mousavi has already been in power once; why is he insisting on one more turn?
 

Also, Rafsanjani is the Donald Trump of Iran. He has as much to lose as anyone if the entire system falls apart, so I seriously doubt he's going to sit up on that pulpit and call for open rebellion.

Why is he even bothering with these series of protests then? Just to marginally increase his own power and make some of his rivals more uncomfortable? Desperation since his clique might be getting marginalized in some new hardliner purge of reformists/moderates?

You know more about this than me, fill me in :p
 
I don't think Iran need a regime change since all the ruling elites in Iran has different political views on what the direction of the country need to go for to compete in this world and the region. More like a consitutional reform and maybe abolish some oppressive and coercive institutions (Iranian Revolutionary Guards) and organisations like the Basij which can be oppressive to western leaning citizens.
 
The Revolutionary Guards and the Basij suppress any dissention; the protests aren't pro-Western, they're pro-democracy, anti-theocracy.

I did read it. What does Mousavi showing up have to do with my point? These protests are still nothing compared to the initial ones following the election. I was just hoping for something more clever than this from Rafsanjani.

Maybe it's the beginning of something bigger, but it doesn't feel that way.

I would have to agree. Apparently protest is limited to Tehran only; no reports from other major cities have come in. I'd say it's a fair assessment the regime's rural (and urban) base is undisturbed by all of this. Also, compared to the 1979 events, these protests seem quite marginal, apart from the media coverage.
 
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