Immortal University XXXVIII: Frederick

I moved settler, and start to expand as mad with organised trait under my belt.

First I felt isolated, but after sending some workboats I managed to contact all the civs.

First Scientist has popped and settled, next Scientist is almost finished.

7 cities now, 8th settler has almost reached his enddestination, and 2 galleys are ready + 1 settler under construction.
Things look quite favourable now, though my tech is a bit slow but that happens often with me and the germans since you need all techs especialy on this map.

overview of the map

Settled in place. I've been playing with building priority and moved the granary up. Way up. In front of monument unless the latter is absolutely mandatory.

The expansion rate this allows with new cities getting to 2 pop whip cycles is incredible. A lot of units can be created too if necessary. I abuse my pop to expand quickly. ORG helped out but it was mostly a cottage orgy.

Recognizing marble, I at least bothered to pick up great library before trading that tech line. Along with NE, that would be my only wonder for a long long time (but not forever this game).

AIs delayed edu a long time allowing me to snag a decent lib tech. With the faster developing cities compared to before my beaker rate took off beyond what I'm used to. The GPP I did get came from my wonder mostly and allowed me to make an academy, bulb philo (founded religion), bulb education, bulb PP, bulb chemistry, bulb biology (also got a GS off physics). Aside from that diversion, we were all cottages in this one. At least until the late 1800's.
















I went the full bottom civics, but screwed up and got my GEs too late. The hammer corps were taken and so I had to try to build the space ship with just environmentalism workshops/mills . We also lack coal!? So I made a rare play for TGD and got it easily ($$$ rush). Later on after winning internet soundly (even though it took 19 turns to build) I also $$$ bought space elevator (2 AIs happened to get robotics eventually). The ship still took forever. I launched in 1910 with 1 of everything except 5 casings. 100% survival chance...20 turn travel time . I'd have lost time waiting for more thrusters.

As you can see, Vicky pressed culture. Vicky got a top 3 culture city nuked/razed (I'd built the panzers in case anyone attacked ME actually), and then I followed up with a land invasion and nuke/raze hastings on the same turn. Her new #3 city at 20k got triple nuked and that was that considering there were only 14 turns left in the game. SB had his #3 city at 30k, but nowhere near a rate that could get 20k in <20 turns.

Everyone else was painfully behind in tech as there was a lot of infighting in this game between AIs.

Standard start. We have grassland, hills, irrigated corn and grassland cows. The only issue with the start is fresh water in the lake so if we settle in place we lose any future levees, something I really detest. However, I tend to trust the computer's positioning, and I have yet had it give me a very bad capital unless we are 1 off the coast which is not the case. Besides, the capital on a hill protects us a big from Barbs and phsycho aggressive leaders. First though I sent the scout eastward. What he found confirmed settling in place



Looks like a potential city on the desert to claim wheat and cows. Health look to be of little concern as 2 grains with a granery, plus no jungle.

We get to work as follows

1) Our scout explores the land, bitterly disappointed that cheap TMIT refuses to grand us Immortal U students any stipends from goody huts. Looks like I got alot explored and I have learned to favor starting with hunting on Immortal games.

2) Techpath went according to the land
Agriculture - irrigated corn
Animal Husbandry - Moo.... We found the horses in teh NW and we send an early warrior there to secure it.
BW - for axes/spears/slavery/chopping - adopted slavery immediately after researching
wheel - to build roads as it's the base economic tech, open up pottery, build graneries to whip, connect horses and copper (which is nicely in Berlins big fat cross).

3) Build, was fairly simply: Worker/ 5 warriors for fogbusting/ settler

I saved once I got the settler to see if everyone agrees with my first choice of cities



As you can see I have anough warrior fogbusting to prevent Barb cities from popping up. Obviously the souther Jungle could be a source though.

Sites I am considering, in this order

A) South, 1W of the marble to start cottaging. The marble means I think I want Aesthetics/Literature early to get the Great Library.

B) The eastcoats desert to get mines, wheat, cows, fish

C) Northern Plains hill for the Fish and horses

D) SW coast for the corn and coastal city.

E) Far west for another coastal city and cows.

I also need to explore the southern lands to see if we are in fact isolated. Sue is nice having the mountains blocking the SW land off!

Techwise, I think writing next and will decide how far I go before another posted round.

I was quite disappointed to find out we were on an isolated map. Then I find out later we aren’t, it’s just that stupid mountains block passages. That’s good in away because it causes the AI’s to get locked into perma-weehorn status which CAN be a huge advantage if you are the one who the AI is going to DoW on. I think I’m going to abuse this bug to the fullest if the opportunity arises.

Anyhow, I have a tremendous tech-lead at this point, and I am 2 turns away from liberalism. I also am 2 turns away from completing UoS, though I am not running any religion yet to make it work! LoL.

I had god terrible luck with religion this game. I opened borders as soon as possible and I got nothing, nothing at all, forever. Also I was very late scouting out where SB and Vicky were, because I THOUGHT they were just south of me (boy was that hypothesis way off!) So in other words I gave them free routes for ages while I got absolutely nothing back in return. That sucks.

Right now I have landed spies and scouts on the other side of that mountain passage, so I can see in detail the status on my POTENTIAL victims. I guess they are so weak at this point, I can’t resist plowing into them later. I do have iron and horses so that’s all I need, but there is one hitch… I only have 1 powerhouse city, and that’s my capital, the other cities are just… very intermittent. In fact, I went through the pain of barb-farming off a city down south for the longest time to unlock my HE, but now I see there really is no suitable city for it!! I’m probably best just putting it later into a future city on the other side of the mountain passage. That means the barb-farming was for nothing, lol.

There is no good spot either for my globe theatre, and I had even gone through the states of going after theater very early and getting them online. Well… what else can you do. I would have had a nice spot if I didn’t MOVE my stating settler at the binging, but how would I have known about the god -damn fish, etc. in the N-E that could have made a great draft city and now I block it because my capital is too close. Argggh!

Oh well, I am not too upset because I succeeded in making my capital a powerhouse with another WE/SSE. Unfortunately, no stone or Mids, and not the most trees in the world meant I decided to skip Pyramids as it would have taken FOREVER!

I really think I should have gone Oracle-Mids gambit here, but it just didn’t occure to me at first because I always bypass this trick on deity since the success is so low.

BTW, I wonder-failed Mausoleum and Sistine on purpose since I really won’t be using them for anything and their artist pollution sucks. Actually, I was close to 50-50 on that Mausoleum because of future Taj synergy. I don’t know… maybe it is better than I give credit for. But I’ve always tried to stay away from it.

So… looks like this will be another all-nighter Friday-night type of thing. Will get back probably when the sun is up, and see how things turned out from here. My first priority will be constitution, and if you don’t know why, then you should not be playing immortal.

I’ll keep things simple.

Started off with a ferry-train to SB’s continent. Stockpiled units and then DoW. Took 2 cities, made peace then re-Dow 10 turns later and take 3 more, then Vassal.

I teched to railroad got some Mgs, and then we Dow on the English. Later on we DoW on Saladin to take out a city he captured from the English. He had perhaps around 40 units in there which he was using to try to prevent the city from revolting. My CR-III tanks had a field day. Then it was off to attack Perc, and we vassaled him after taking out his nice capital. Next step… we DoW on Saladin again and take one city, then win with a UN victory.

End of Story…


BTW, WTH was going on with Sitting-Bulls capital this game? If you look, he has more than the legal limit for starting resources in his BFC.

I started Ag - Wheel - Pottery. Found the marble right off and was instantly thinking oracle - monarchy for some odd reason. Took me an hour to play this though not much happened. Its on livestream/grashopasciv4.. I absolutely cannot play straight like this. Normally I tab out and do other stuff and plan more. I'm not sure if I'm playing bad or just uncomfortable, but this is what I look like at 100 BC EDIT - thats 4 cities...

I mined AND roaded that damn iron accidentally and no one wanted to trade for it... this was upsetting since I was HR'g my capital and want warriors. Settled to grab all the health resources.. I'm not sure if I want the parthenon or the cash, but the GL will go in my GP farm next to the capital. Tech pace is slow or I'd look like more of an idiot. Bust some settlers out next I guess. Caste for my GP farm for awhile then back to slavery?? Got a couple southern city sites that would need the whip.. Obviously I'm rushing libraries out to get a GS before my capital gets me a GP again. I don't know how fast I want to settle - I guess I have to to prevent SB settling on me. I really just want to get Oxford out since my capital will be a monster. And my GP farm will pop out a bunch of GS's to bulb me along.

Not spawn busting the little island. Hope barb galleys don't show up. Stay in caste and workshop everything else up?? I feel lost. Ooh saves in case you wanted to figure out what I could possibly have been thinking.

Snuck a peek at your spoiler even though you are ahead since I wanted to see if you had anything about your early game. I love the capital move. I wanted to do that so bad. Love having the hammers in the capital. Worked out pretty sweet looks like. Have to compare against how I end up and I'll check TMIT's later. You have a better time than him?

I'd settle the desert city first yeah? Divert to fishing and that city will be able to pop out settlers/workers for you very fast. The marble site can come later and wouldn't do anything for you in the meantime.

You planning wheel - pottery - writing at this point yeah? I assume GS from the capital ASAP? Theres no happy in sight, so perhaps I'm wrong on settling desert first since commerce is what will constrain how fast you settle new cities.

7 cities and 2 more settlers ready if they try to settle my continent.

Bulbing philosophy was probably a mistake, it's useless without a state religion (Boudica is Buddhist and I have literally no army). I should have saved that scientist to bulb all of Education.

I'd either go for the desert fish/cow or the corn/coast sites. They can help the capital pump settlers.

Won Liberalism, took Nationalism, built Taj, beelined Democracy and converted from SE to CE. Now this is going to be really difficult because Victoria is running away in tech. Probably the Internet is the only way to win space here...

Played this game so far with little plan or organisation, with plenty of land at the start which was naturally blocked off I seemed to drop my guard early and really took my time doing anything. Made some really bad tech trade decisions earlier on trying to claw up to the tech leaders but I'm still behind in tech, power, land and pop. Won the lib race picked nationalism but got beaten to Taj. Decided to head straight for rifles even though I was in no shape to start or prep for a war.

I currently confused as to how to win this game, again it seems on emporer I lose all ability to specialize cities or even get the basics right, for example I havn't founded a good site for a GP farm and were philosophical. Maybe I'm not ready for emporer or maybe I'm just having trouble adjusting to being behind in tech again.

Anyway some screenies.