INES II: NADTA/DFI Joint Commission

Milarqui

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This thread is to be used for the public debates between the North American Defense and Trade Alliance and the Democratic Front International. It is opened with the hope that the two alliances will eventually merge into one alliance that will spread democracy everywhere in this world.

Members​
NADTA​
American Federation
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Cascadia
Confederate States
Quebec
Republic of Alaska
Theocratic State of Deseret
DFI​
Amazonia
ASEAN
Brazil
Great Britain
Iberia
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Lima Republic
Mesopotamian Union
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New Zealand
Republic of Australia
Russian Republic
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Scandinavian Republic
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South African Union
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Applying members

Pacts
Between NADTA/DFI and other alliances

Between NADTA/DFI members and other nations​
Deseret-Venezuelan Non-Aggression Pact: Permanent
Confederate-Venezuelan Non-Aggression Pact: Permanent

Strategic Considerations​
  • Relations with the Eastern Coalition
  • Threats to Internal Security
  • Threats from other nations
  • Diplomacy

Proposals​
1. Iberia proposes the creation of a NADTA/DFI Joint Research Fund, much like the one shared by the Eastern Coalition.
VOTES: FOR: 9 (Iberia, Amazonia, Brazil, the Lima Republic, the Mesopotamian Union, New Zealand, the Republic of Australia, the Russian Empire, and the Scandinavian Republic)
AGAINST:
 
You forgot some things: I will use this post and reserve the next for nations and pacts.

NADTA Nations: (North American Defense and Trade Alliance)

Theocratic State of Deseret
Quebec
Republic of Alaska
The Confederate States
Cascadia
American Federation

DFI Nations: (Democratic Front International)

ASEAN
Great Britain
Iberia
Amazonia
Brazil
Lima Republic
South African Union
Scandinavian Republic
Russian Republic
New Zealand
Republic of Australia
Mesopotamian Union
 
Pacts: Between NADTA/DFI and other alliances.

Pacts: Between members to another country.

Deseret/Venezuelan NAP. (permanent)
Confederate/Venezuelan NAP. (? Unknown period)
 
Walks in proud, but respectful.

The treaty between the Confederate Nation and Venezuela is permanent. Long live the Peace!
 
Xavier Suarez is proud to have peace with Venezuela, and is overjoyed that there is peace now between Venezuela and Deseret. Xavier is not quite ready to be sharing all technologies with the DFI, he needs to discuss things with his (OOC) homeboy Hinckley.
 
The Scandanavian Republic thinks that making the joint tech fund official is one of the most important things that can be done here.

Amazonia, Brazil, the Lima Republic, the Mesopotamian Union, New Zealand, the Republic of Australia, the Russian Empire, and the Scandinavian Republic vote AYE on the creation of a true joint tech fund.

9/18 in favor, 1 more vote needed to pass.
 
We request military or economic assistance against the invasion of Argentina. The Argentine Federation has violated its membership of the DFI by invading a fellow member so we request that, even if you do not support us, they are suspended or expelled from membership and that economic sanctions be deployed against them, hopefully, bring them back in line. We will fight to the last man to protect our nation from this aggression. We hope that you consider our proposals carefully for the fate of my nation will be decided by them. We granted the Argentine Federation a definitive peace treaty at Manuas but they have spat it back in our faces. Please, I will beg you if I have to, help us stop the Argentine rampage of killing, raping pillaging, burning destruction. Our fate is in your hands! Don't drop it!
 
The Argentine Federation's membership in the Democratic Front International has already been terminated.

As for the DFI's action, we support cutting off diplomatic relationships with Argentina and supporting Brazil with the goals of having Argentina concede defeat and judge their current leaders for crimes of war.
 
We have been expelled?! And America gets to stay in?!?! Injustice! We are joining with the East.
 
As for the DFI's action, we support cutting off diplomatic relationships with Argentina and supporting Brazil with the goals of having Argentina concede defeat.
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Yes but we must ask how? Can we expect the full military force of this alliance to be brought to bare or 1 ASP as a token? We need real commitments as soon as possible to been formulating our defence plans. Obviously specifics will be dealt with outside of the public eye but we need a rough idea. Every day we delay innocent children are killed by indiscriminate bombings and bombardments of our towns and cities.
 
Milarqui said:
You attacked one of your own allies. Did you actually think you would be rewarded?
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They stole from us. Stealing is a sin.
 
The AF did attack its allies, too. Play the nice guys again and do sanctions or some nonsense on Argentina. Also, stealing IS a sin, and perhaps you guys should work things out and get along.
 
Vertinari118 said:
Yes but we must ask how? Can we expect the full military force of this alliance to be brought to bare or 1 ASP as a token? We need real commitments as soon as possible to been formulating our defence plans. Obviously specifics will be dealt with outside of the public eye but we need a rough idea. Every day we delay innocent children are killed by indiscriminate bombings and bombardments of our towns and cities.
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On principle, full military support. Then, if Argentina backs down, diplomatic support.

Crezth said:
They stole from us. Stealing is a sin.
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So is killing, which you have done at a great level.
 
We stole nothing! We have already explained what happened to the world. Do you really think former members of the Chicago Pact will believe your cock and bull story when they saw the mix-up with their own eyes?! At least admit your war is illegal and stop trying to justify it with untrue allegations which are nothing to go to war about anyway.
 
Milarqui said:
So is killing, which you have done at a great level.
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So will you kill us for killing? You see your logic fails immediately. We are simply avenging our rights. We will have peace only if Brazil pays us reparations.
 
Reparations would end all of this nonsense in the quickest fashion without bloodshed.
 
The money we would have placed in the Development Fund amounted to 2 ASP. The damage you have inflicted is 5.8 ASP. The net debt comes to 3.8 ASP to us and that is not counting long-term damage just immediate.

As we have just pointed out they owe us 3.8 ASP if you want to put a figure on the net amount owed by either nation to the other. I have excluded their troop losses from this total as they are the aggressor and therefore were prepared to lose men in this invasion. However we must thank the Confederacy for its complete lack of support and comprehension of the truth of the situation. We truly commend you as an example of how a real ally should behave. You are just behind Argentina though who claim the top prize. May I apologise in advance for any offence the previous statement may cause but we merely wish to emphasise the illogic of your current position in the most expedient way possible.
 
The Eastern Coalition has reached general consensus that we are willing to accept Argentina as a member.
 
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