Immortal University 46: Wang Kon

Hello all and welcome to the Immortal University! This series was started a long time ago to move a group of the forum's players to the next level. It is now hosted by professors Ignorant Teacher (on sabbatical) and myself, TMIT. Are you ready for the U?

This is the 46th beatdown on the AI, in case you're keeping track.

We will uphold the university's traditions...smacking down the hapless AI!

Our leader this time around:



The UU goes nicely with elephants but is often difficult to use otherwise, while the UB is another boring but effective research boost.

Here's the start:



Another IU, another random fractal start. Apparently, we get a nice one this time.

Huts and Events are off. If you don't like it, just plop 4 warriors somewhere in world builder and give yourself 60 gold to simulate huts, and just delete your capitol and put 3 archers there to simulate events.

Copy and Paste of the doctrine:

To play, just extract the WB save file into your worldbuilder saves directory, then play it. Use custom scenario if you want some extra settings to tickle your fancy. This series was designed for people learning immortal, so most people here will be at that level or trying to attain it, although deity players are welcome also. Hell, if you want to play this on NOBLE, go ahead, but I'm not peeling off the AI bonuses. The intention of this and any other game thread I post is to get better. Play whatever level you need in order to improve. Just remember, there are immortal bonuses and that's not going to change unless you WB edit it.

If you are aspiring IMM+, try to remember to add archery back to the barbs in WB. Every time you don't, a deity AI will kill a kitten, although there are a lot of kittens so it's not the end of the world if you prefer easymode barbs .

I do request people to list their difficulty and speed. In terms of updates, well nobody follows that anyway. Post in the manner you feel comfortable. Typical comparison dates are 1 AD, liberalism, and victory/defeat, as well as any major events. If in doubt, go with that.

The save!

View attachment IU 46 Wang Kon.zip

The initial autosave for those who want to duck having to add barbs or possibly use proper colors. It's IMM/Norm no huts/events.

View attachment AutoSave_Initial_BC-4000.CivBeyondSwordSave

Wow, whatta sweet start!

Oracle-MC with WK?

25 AD



Liberalism



1936 Space Victory...and more sauce

so when you took is capital it destroyed is ship?

Fantastic start - in place is the best option. Great commerce, food and hammers; what more could we ask for? Bet its a horrible surrounding map to make up for it.

My first thought was oracle here too, should be able to get MC or COL with ease, early techrate will be very fast.

mrwookie said:

so when you took is capital it destroyed is ship?

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Capturing a capitol after an opponent launches the ship will cause it to be destroyed. I opted to do this literally the turn before it landed, which one doesn't usually do against inland capitols .

Do you have to destroy the capital or the city that build Apollo to destroy the SS?
Does the AI always build Apollo in their capital?

It's not about the Apollo, it's about the spaceship being launched from the capital regardless of where the Apollo is. And for whatever reason the ship is destroyed once their command center in the capital is destroyed. Go figure.

So if I download this and want to play immortal, I have to add achery back to the barbs in WB?

TMIT:

Silu said:

TMIT:

Spoiler :

God damn you had some mad reads on this one. Skip wet corn for BW on a map that basically has no strat resos if played conservatively? Yeah yeah, I know the Copper could be acquired with 2nd/3rd city with a traditional tech path... provided your scouts don't get eaten by consecutive bears and archers... AC took it with his 3rd before I could slog there through endless barbs in mine Kudos on tmitting (~strike until 1AD ) another map

My game is looking "interesting" so far, with quite a different approach.

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Been doing well with one-city (non OCC) monarch lately...thought I would test emporer seeing the gold. Painful.



cas

1900 AD culture is not an impressive time for immortal at all and is more in line with emp. It can go as early as the early 1800's on immortal potentially. A human player with 6 cities and either 2 religions or 1+ sistine can routinely get it before 1850 AD too.

cas

TMIT, Silu

grashopa, TNIT, Silu

This series by default has events off since the time I started hosting it.

On top of that, I XML ban all events from happening just in case somebody posts a forum game and accidentally forgets to check "no fake difficulty garbage". In other words, events are impossible for me outside of MP, where nobody in their right mind would use them competitively.

So slave revolts are not an issue.

By the way, the returns on slavery are too high to justify avoiding it based on a random chance of revolt. That is *part* of the reason they constitute fake difficulty in the first place...it represents a situation where you are punished for making what is almost always still the optimal choice, but not consistently between games or between civs in a given game.

Anyway events are totally inappropriate in IU. I won't stop people from re-enabling them in custom options, only because I can't . Well, seeing an events game is better than no game at all too, in spite of the problems associated with them.

Thank you for the reply. I take it that means yes to whipping the first worker. I guess the 1 turn of anarchy doen't add up to anything in the long run.

The slave revolt is an irrational fear of mine, I know. I am just afraid that Sparticus will show up at the worst possible moment and shut down my capitol for a turn or two. No chance of revolt would be a luxury.

For good or bad, I like events. It makes things a bit more interesting. There is probably a way to reduce the chance of a slave revolt even when they are allowed in game.

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TMIT, your hatred of random events never ceased to amaze me It even trumps obsolete's hatred for his namesake starts.