Role Play Challenge: The Rebirth of Israel, Search for the Promised Land

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Welcome to a replay of the next Role Play Challenge, The Rebirth of Israel and the search for the Promised land! The first game was a bitter loss as our land was terrible and our Neighbor the Persians were even more terrible. These games are meant to be educational and fun and are a different slant from the Classic RPC as we do not focus on one of our beloved 52 leaders.

Here we turns our eyes to the forgotten people of Civilization, the Jews. Yes friends, the poor Jews have been thrown aside with no respectable leader, oh Sid why have your forsaken them! But do not fear friends, for I am here to bring them respect (well that remains to be seen) and lead them to the promised land (Just what is that anyway?).

And I am playing as ISRAEL, for truely friends what one Jew can serve this people from the many that history has given us. In the spirit of the Gupta's (and let's hope the Jews fair better than the inept Indians) we shall have a new Jew leading Israel every segment!

We start with the founding Father of Israel, the Prophet Abraham. And of couse we do need to use some Civilization and leader, thus this time around we sill try Mansa Musa who is Financial and Spiritual with a gold producing UB, very proper for the Jewish people I think. There are no extreme rules here, this is more a true Role Play game to have fun with Israel and play it up! The last game was a Mod and frankly the RPC angle fell off a bit, so I will make it up here.

Game Settings

Epic Speed, Emperor difficulty
Large Continents Map because frankly the Jews will spread all over and they need land
Arid map for Palestine flavor
There are 9 preselected leaders who repressed the Jews, and it's true I could use a 34 leader mod here but for simplicity let's stop at 9.

The Leaders

Alexander: For the cursed hellinistic culture that corrupted the true Jewish religion
Bismark: Need I say why?
Isabella: For the Spanish Inquisition that killed more Jews than Muslims.
Hammurabi: Read the bible man!
Cyrus: OK, someone who actually helped the Jews, we can backstab him.
Saladin: Because the Arabs hate the Jews.
Ramesses: Because he just couldn't let those people go.
Agustus: Well we need some Roman for Burning the Temple down.
Stalin: For the Russian Jews, for the Russian Jews.

The Rules:

1) We must found Judaism obviously. We also need to build the Temple fop Solomon and stay in either Organized religion or Theocracy. We cannot found another religion.

2) The Jews MUST secure the Promised land, meaning they must control the entire continent they start on. And I mean CONTROL, no Vassals allowed for the Jews.

3) The Apostalic Palace is an abomination to the Jews and cannot be built. If captured it must be razed. All AP votes, if we get the religion, must be defied. The exception is if the AP happens to become Jewish, then we can simply vote NO.

4) Jewish traditional Flavor should be added. Example we cannot pasturize pigs because of the Kosher thing. On the other hand I say we should definitely beeline and build Broadway/Rock and Roll/Hollywood because frankly friends the Jews excel here.

5) Otherwise we can play as we see fit. I chose no trade restrictions, we are Jews and can trade for what ever benefits us Jews. All victory conditions ar eopen except obviously the AP diplomatic win.

Now onto our Founding Father

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Abraham, a rather fire and brimstone type of guy!

Our leader

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The Entire Nation of Israel.

And the start

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OK a few comments here. Mansa offers us a very strong leader, especially early on. However, he does NOT start with Mysticism! We do have great land though and start with mining, so I say we go along the path mysticism/masonry/Polytheim/Monotheism. With a little luck of benevolence from the almighty we should still be able to found Judaism!

I opted for keeping the Arid map as it really plays with ancient Israel best, and assuming floodplains Mansa's traits/UB can really leverage that well.

Here's to a more successful Israel!
 

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Layout is everything. If we'd have had cyrus' or AC's spawn points in the last game it'd have been less of a "screw you" type game.

I have a trick or two I want to try for this opening, given my experience in the last one.
 
Good luck. Should be easily doable (getting Judaism) working the Oasis, a FP and the gold.
 
Ha....I knew the last one was FAIL because...well....i failed miserably

Look forward to giving his one a shot

So if the AP happens to be Jewish, which is unlikely, we should still raze it? and all those hammers?
 
why would jews care about bee-lining broadway/RR/Bway? Doesn't really make a whole lot of role-play sense. I would say, you need to bee-line banks and build them in every city or something like that....

W.e. tho, good luck.
 
Jews run the entertainment industry
 
Lymond, the AP is a filthy institute and deserves to be razed, regardless who controls it.

And you are correct about the entertainment business! :lol:
 
Lymond, the AP is a filthy institute and deserves to be razed, regardless who controls it.

And you are correct about the entertainment business! :lol:

I must learn to be a better Jew. The AP will go down!!! Matzos for everyone!
 
OMZG. That is an OWNAGE capital.

Even if no Med/Poly, Mono is a given here. Or even CoL or Philo.

Can you harvest Clam? Kosher?

I just have play without restrictions.
 
Looking forward to this! Although I do feel sorry for all those pasteurized pigs. What's the boiling point for pork fat?
 
This map:

Spoiler :
Is very strange. What are the odds that EVERY CIVILIZATION has a 3+ floodplain start?
 
when i saw the map i was like "YEARRRH!!! GOOOOOOLD!! YEHEEEW!!!" :D

and made a little ginger gnome dance... xD

i see a great furture for Moses :D
 
This map:

Spoiler :
Is very strange. What are the odds that EVERY CIVILIZATION has a 3+ floodplain start?

It's not *that* unusual for an arid climate.

Edit: I'm taking a break from it because I had to reload 1-2 turns from the good ole control-click = "you have declared war on x!", but this map is a lot more winnable than the last one.
 
Still no Choose Religions option? Seems pretty essential to me, and by no means cheating.

Nil, I already played the segment and will post it soon. Had no problem founding Judaism, the Prophet TMIT was correct on the year 2800 BC. Alos with choose religions what's to stop Isabella or Sal from founding it earlier?
 
Nil, I already played the segment and will post it soon. Had no problem founding Judaism, the Prophet TMIT was correct on the year 2800 BC. Alos with choose religions what's to stop Isabella or Sal from founding it earlier?

AIs will pick their favorite religion to found as long as it's available. Izzy will 100% choose christianity and sal will 100% islam. None of the others starts with mysticism, so on a huge majority of games with choose religions and these leaders, christianity goes to izzy and islam to sal.

It's possible if both of them go for the same thing that a 3rd party AI gets the other religion, but if they don't have a favorite or the favorite is already taken IIRC they just choose the default.

Of course, as the mali there is no way you'll be getting one of the first 2 religions anyway with these opponents, although with brennus and an oasis start or something it would have been different.
 
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