Mod graphic problem

cripp7 · Apr 19, 2010

I'm creating a mod based off LoR and merging a couple of others, the problem I'm getting is in the building in the cities. When I hover over the city

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Is this due to the .dds file being the wrong size?

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phungus420 · Apr 20, 2010

Buttons is either being caused by not having the correct button defined in the art defines file, you'll see the same in the civilopedia if this is the case. More likely is that you have a space in the file name/file path. The civ4 windows wol't accept spaces in button paths, so you need to get rid of those and account for that in the art defines file.

cripp7 · Apr 20, 2010

that did not seem to do it either, I changed the space to an _ and tried it that way. Also just tried removing the space. So instead of having "Slave Cage" to "SlaveCage" and that did not work either. I did that for several others with no avail. I also noticed that the default monument icon does not show up either!?! I have no idea why that would happen, as there was no change to it at all.

strategyonly · Apr 20, 2010

Yeah i had the same issue using BULL, all it is, is the dds file more than likely needs to be changed to have an alpha layer or different dds than the normal dds DXT3 to something else like dds DXT5. That is of course assuming that you have it 64X64 already.

OrionVeteran · Apr 20, 2010

I've been trying very hard to track this down, but nothing has worked. I even created an atlas file. Everything worked with the atlas execpt when hovering over the city. To me it makes no sense for the icon to appear correctly in the civilopedia and the tech tree, but not when hovering over the city. This is a BUG issue, as the building icons do not appear in mods without BUG. :confused:

EmperorFool · Apr 20, 2010

Neither the DDS file itself nor the folders containing it (starting from Assets) can have a space in it. This is a limitation of BTS's GUI toolkit that I cannot change. All these names are invalid:

Assets/Art/My Mod/My Building.dds
Assets/Art/My Mod/MyBuilding.dds
Assets/Art/MyMod/My Building.dds

Beyond that if the image works in the Civilopedia it should work in the City Bar hover. If you can package up an image that does not work along with the bare minimum XML files to reproduce the issue, I'd be happy to take a look. I must be able to put the files into a new mod folder and run it. Tell me which building too so I can add it to a city.

OrionVeteran · Apr 20, 2010

EmperorFool said:
Neither the DDS file itself nor the folders containing it (starting from Assets) can have a space in it. This is a limitation of BTS's GUI toolkit that I cannot change. All these names are invalid:

Assets/Art/My Mod/My Building.dds

Assets/Art/My Mod/MyBuilding.dds

Assets/Art/MyMod/My Building.dds

Beyond that if the image works in the Civilopedia it should work in the City Bar hover. If you can package up an image that does not work along with the bare minimum XML files to reproduce the issue, I'd be happy to take a look. I must be able to put the files into a new mod folder and run it. Tell me which building too so I can add it to a city.

Download the Water Well Mod, which is very small. It is a perfect example.

EmperorFool · Apr 21, 2010

5 mins on GOogle and perusing your threads lead to no link to the Water Well mod. Care to share?

phungus420 · Apr 21, 2010

I believe he is refering to one of his mod components, the Water Well mod, found here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=14047

Also I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest the issue is caused by modular loading. Possibly a WoC problem, but most likely intrinsic to BtS's modular loading itself, and a disconnect with whatever functions access the art for UI panes.

cripp7 · Apr 21, 2010

True that they do that, in the mods I changed the directory & file names to no spaces including the paths in the xml files. Funny that Orion's bazaar is the only one that does work correctly.

OrionVeteran · Apr 21, 2010

phungus420 said:
I believe he is refering to one of his mod components, the Water Well mod, found here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=14047

Yes. That is the Water Well Mod link.

OrionVeteran · Apr 21, 2010

phungus420 said:
Also I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest the issue is caused by modular loading. Possibly a WoC problem, but most likely intrinsic to BtS's modular loading itself, and a disconnect with whatever functions access the art for UI panes.

I think you may be right. I have the bazaar running in WoC format and it does not appear either.

cripp7 · Apr 21, 2010

OrionVeteran said:
I think you may be right. I have the bazaar running in WoC format and it does not appear either.

I'm in LoR and the only I can get working is the bazaar

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CellKu · Apr 21, 2010

@cripp7: sorry, slightly off topic, because I saw you are adding mercenaries:
Do you intend to add also something like TheLopez's mercenaries mod? (original: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3779841,
strategyonly's update for BTS 3.19: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=329903)

cripp7 · Apr 21, 2010

CellKu said:
@cripp7: sorry, slightly off topic, because I saw you are adding mercenaries:
Do you intend to add also something like TheLopez's mercenaries mod? (original: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3779841,
strategyonly's update for BTS 3.19: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=329903)

thanks, I've seen that before. I'll add it to my list. The Mercenaries I have now is actually a playable civ.

OrionVeteran · Apr 21, 2010

cripp7 said:
I'm in LoR and the only I can get working is the bazaar

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In your mod, is the Bazaar installed in WoC format or standard? If loaded in WoC format, then this is crazy! :crazyeye:

Why it would work in your mod and not mine, well who knows. :confused:

EmperorFool · Apr 21, 2010

I see a reason why it doesn't work in WoC format from hover text: the hover text is created using the Gamebryo GUI engine directly. This is just a guess, but it makes sense. Of course, that engine also draws the other graphics, but I guess BTS has a chance to intervene and give the full path to the image in that case. Truly bizarre.

That being said, perhaps there's a way to insert the full path to the image when building the hover text. Can someone tell me if the getButton() call has the WoC-enabled path or only the path relative to the module's folder?

cripp7 · Apr 22, 2010

OrionVeteran said:
In your mod, is the Bazaar installed in WoC format or standard? If loaded in WoC format, then this is crazy! Why it would work in your mod and not mine, well who knows.

It's in the WoC format just like all the others.

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