MSNBC is a Propaganda Arm of...

Berzerker

Berzerker

Deity
Joined
Dec 30, 2000
Messages
21,785
Location
the golf course
the Democrap Party... MSNBC is the "Fair and Balanced" counter to the frauds at Fox.

Republicans probably figured this out long ago, but I aint exactly sympathetic to them either and to a very large extent, the GOP deserves to be trashed because they are trash. But that aside, now that Rand Paul has won the GOP primary in Kentucky, the left wing (and MSNBC) has decided Paul's views are relevant. Before the primary Rand was Ron Paul's beloved son and received favorable or neutral coverage while his opponent went largely unnoticed or frowned upon as Mitch McConnell's chosen establishment candidate. But now that the Dems have a shot at a senate seat from Kentucky, Rand Paul has become the devil.

and I'm a fan of MSNBC... They went after Bush and the GOP for lying us into war and they deserve respect for that. I was a fan anyway, I knew they were anti-GOP and pro-Obama and that didn't bother me, but they've crossed a line when I see them playing political games - and thats what they're doing. Instead of informing the voters of views they consider relevant they kept quiet until after Paul won his primary. Now that he won, they're trashing him to help the Democrat candidate.
 
I think Rand is doing enough on his own to help the Democrat. Since winning the primary, he has been all over the airwaves spouting his nonsense.
 
I actually see Fox as an arm of the Republican Party. I mean literally. MSNBC I see as opportunist. Sure they have some very liberal pundits but if you notice, Maddow and Olberman were only really pushed on us when Bush was at his lowest approval ratings.

I remember back when Chris Mathews was a Bush worshiper, and he has been more critical of Obama lately (if only a little) as the President's approval ratings have dropped. Joe Scarborough was a huge Republican back in Bush's good approval rating years only to become a staunch moderate while Obama was super popular and he is now slipping back towards standard Republican conservatism more and more.
 
JollyRoger said:
I think Rand is doing enough on his own to help the Democrat. Since winning the primary, he has been all over the airwaves spouting his nonsense.
Click to expand...

even if true, totally beside the point - this is about the shift in coverage from MSNBC. They were helping him vs his opponent and the day after he wins they're trashing him. How can you trust an outfit like that? I thought they might do that, but this is ridiculous. They kept us in the dark until they decided light suited them better. This aint about arguing for your cause, its about a "news" organization trying to manipulate an election and its transparent.

Would you agree this was a dis-service to the voters of Kentucky? If Paul's Republican opponent was the better candidate (and just compare what MSNBC said about him compared to this deluge of suddenly relevant news about Paul) why didn't MSNBC tell us about Paul before the primary? They saw him as more beatable because of his views. Beatable for the Democrat candidate... That aint a news organization, its propaganda.
 
You aint watching MSNBC, Matthews, Olbermann and Maddow have been all over this ever since the guy won the primary. Now they're giving us a history lesson about Jim Crow without even bothering to mention the political party in control then (Democraps) passed a bunch of laws requiring segregation.
 
Berzerker said:
You aint watching MSNBC, Matthews, Olbermann and Maddow have been all over this ever since the guy won the primary. Now they're giving us a history lesson about Jim Crow without even bothering to mention the political party in control then (Democraps) passed a bunch of laws requiring segregation.
Click to expand...

The Democrats in control at the time of the Jim Crow Laws are hardly the same as the Democrats in control now. I do think they are way overblowing this and unfairly painting Rand Paul to be much more ignorant and racist than he is however. I actually don't think he is the least bit racist, just a firm believer in the rights of private institutions, regardless of what those rights may lead too.
 
bombshoo said:
The Democrats in control at the time of the Jim Crow Laws are hardly the same as the Democrats in control now. I do think they are way overblowing this and unfairly painting Rand Paul to be much more ignorant and racist than he is however. I actually don't think he is the least bit racist, just a firm believer in the rights of private institutions, regardless of what those rights may lead too.
Click to expand...

So what? It was the Democrat Party in charge of Jim Crow and now its Democrats smearing Paul for what their party did. The point is the change in coverage, I wouldn't have started this thread had MSNBC been telling us about the guy's views when he was running for the GOP nomination. They screwed his opponent because Paul is more beatable. That aint news, its propaganda...
 
I don't trust your judgment on this matter, Berzerker. I need specific links to videos/articles or else I won't believe you.

I don't think I'm alone here in this opinion either.
 
Berzerker said:
turn on the damn TV and tune it to MSNBC and watch for yourself
Click to expand...
I don't have cable television and the event is already over. I can't see what MSNBC was doing before Rand Paul got the nomination by turning it on now!

Berzerker said:
and back that BS up with something
Click to expand...

What BS?


All I'm saying is we need more info to verify your story. If you can't do that, it's fine you don't have any obligation to prove this to me, but I'm not going to believe you in that case and I don't think many other people will as well.
 
Rand Paul has some pretty crazy positions, why shouldn't they be examined?
 
Well thats too bad, but that aint my problem - anyone else with MSNBC could not only confirm what I said, they could have turned it on and watched while you were typing your insults, try their website. I sure as hell aint hunting down video for you. And I dont care what you believe, you dont speak for anyone but yourself. And I'm talking about this BS

I don't trust your judgment on this matter, Berzerker. I need specific links to videos/articles or else I won't believe you.

I don't think I'm alone here in this opinion either.
Click to expand...

In case you haven't noticed, you are alone. But I'd love to see you quote all these people who agree with you. Go ahead, or just go away. Troll


Rand Paul has some pretty crazy positions, why shouldn't they be examined?
Click to expand...

Right after a primary instead of before?

Moderator Action: Trolling.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
 
Perfection isn't alone, I'm adding my voice to his. If you want to claim that MSNBC is biased then you have to back it up with something. If you are unable or unwilling to provide any evidence to support your claim then you're just pissing in the wind. There is absolutely no reason why anyone should believe you right now. Provide a reason, stop calling people that are asking legitimate questions trolls just because you don't like the fact that they're questioning you, or enjoy having your thread locked. Because there isn't any discussion going on here, and without you giving us something to discuss other than whether or not you're going to link any stories, there never will be.
 
Lord Baal said:
Perfection isn't alone, I'm adding my voice to his.
Click to expand...

Here's the problem, now follow the logic - he said other people agreed with him that I'm too unreliable. So he needs to quote people from previous threads and you dont count. I dont even know you. When did we have a debate in which I gave you reason to think I'm unreliable? He cant back that BS up, would you like to try? Lets hear that voice of yours.

If you want to claim that MSNBC is biased then you have to back it up with something.
Click to expand...

I did, try reading the OP and look for "evidence" of this bias - hint, their coverage of Paul changed after he won the primary. :crazyeye:

If you are unable or unwilling to provide any evidence to support your claim then you're just pissing in the wind.
Click to expand...

Well, go piss somewhere else

There is absolutely no reason why anyone should believe you right now.
Click to expand...

Unless of course they have a TV and spent some time watching MSNBC the last few days.

Provide a reason, stop calling people that are asking legitimate questions trolls just because you don't like the fact that they're questioning you, or enjoy having your thread locked.
Click to expand...

He is a troll, you just cant figure that out. And I aint calling him that because he asked for a link, its the rest of what he said. How did you miss all that?

Because there isn't any discussion going on here, and without you giving us something to discuss other than whether or not you're going to link any stories, there never will be.
Click to expand...

Oh well, if you and Perfie have nothing to say other than request a link, yer outta luck. Go visit their website if you cant watch their shows, I dont care.

Moderator Action: Trolling.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
 
Fox wins on sheer volume, but thats the problem with their coverage - they went active after the primary. They held back until he won and then let loose with the fire hoses and dogs.
 
Well, I am commenting on the current situation.

There used to be a time when O'Reilly was the radical factor of Fox News (All right, maybe Hannity). Now he may be the most sane and balanced of the bunch. Quite an achievement (backwards one, but still) in a mere two years. I think MSNBC just kept bobbing on the course they have been for years. They used to be counterparts, but not any more. Fox took it to a whole new level.

Is there any way for you guys to get actual commentary-less news reported on television? Where they do actual research into the stuff they are reporting instead of going: "Dem says: *Dem talking*, Rep says: *Rep talking*, that's all for tonight!"
 
Fact is as a generally Liberal news organization why would they put much effort into a GOP primary? After all I would assume their more Liberal viewership would be more interested in reporting on Democratic primaries, but of course now that the primary is over Rand Paul is in a general election which is of course much more newsworthy for those of a variety of political viewpoints. Thus in general it makes sense to ignore someone like Rand Paul until after the primary.

Further I don't really buy that they made such a dramatic about face, and third Perfection and Lord Baal in asking for some type of evidence or links on the matter.

I'm sure that MSNBC went from basically ignoring Paul to attacking him, but that makes sense and is hardly biased given that he won a primary and thus gained importance. But the blatant about face you are claiming just doesn't make sense.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Zardnaar
Could the GoP/Trump Win Under A Proportional System?
Replies
17
Views
2K
Zardnaar
Zardnaar
Zardnaar
Progressives How Many?
2 3 4
Replies
61
Views
4K
JollyRoger
JollyRoger
stfoskey12
Strategic Party Affiliation
4 5 6
Replies
100
Views
9K
danjuno
danjuno
Zardnaar
The Death of the Left/FPtP
Replies
1
Views
587
Zardnaar
Zardnaar
Zardnaar
Zards Political Theories In Action
2 3 4
Replies
61
Views
5K
Arwon
Arwon
Back
Top Bottom