Advertisement
Civilization Fanatics' Center

Go Back   Civilization Fanatics' Forums > CIVILIZATION V > Civ5 - Strategy & Tips

Notices

Civ5 - Strategy & Tips Discuss your Civ5 strategy and tips with other players.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Jul 20, 2010, 04:59 AM   #1
AriochIV
Analyst
 
AriochIV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 3,705
Arioch's Analyst Thread

I'm creating a new thread for this so we can stop gumming up Greg's Strategic View thread with screenshot analysis discussion.

I set up a Civilization V Analyst site so that I could post collections of screenshot- and video-culled data and analysis of it. The site has other stuff there too, but the images are the main thrust of the site.

If you have comments, suggestions or additions, feel free to use this thread.
AriochIV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 05:00 AM   #2
Shurdus
Am I Napoleon?
 
Shurdus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Settle in place
Posts: 2,300
Nice!
__________________
I used to have a great sig. Then I took an arrow to the knee.
Shurdus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 05:06 AM   #3
cccv
King
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 798
First comment-- great.
Second comment-- thank you.
Third comment-- I notice you speculate a bit about which unit the UUs will replace (and in the case of musketeers you state outright that they will replace musketmen). Have we ever been told that the UUs will be replacing regular units this time? Given that UUs are going to be really unique this time and not just regular units with little bonuses, I would actually guess that they won't.
cccv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 05:09 AM   #4
V. Soma
Deity
 
V. Soma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Hungary
Posts: 3,047
ah, nice to have this thread!
__________________
creator of:
Clashing of Empires
(A standard sized version of Rhye's Civ for Civ 3)


My civ5 ideas:
- Conditioned Technological Development | Unit maintenance & supply | Land Unit Combat idea for 2 UPT
V. Soma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 05:10 AM   #5
Tomice
Passionate Smart-Ass
 
Tomice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austria, EU, no kangaroos ;)
Posts: 1,805
Again, great site! I just wanted to suggest that under "civs" you have the 2 unknown DLC Civs listed as "D2D exclusive" while I somehow understood that it's just the first DLC included in the price, while other can purchase it later?
Tomice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 05:42 AM   #6
sdlufkin
Warlord
 
sdlufkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by AriochIV View Post
I'm creating a new thread for this so we can stop gumming up Greg's Strategic View thread with screenshot analysis discussion.

I set up a Civilization V Analyst site so that I could post collections of screenshot- and video-culled data and analysis of it. The site has other stuff there too, but the images are the main thrust of the site.

If you have comments, suggestions or additions, feel free to use this thread.
Your civilization link is broken (should be http://well-of-souls.com/civ/civ5_civilizations.html).

Awesome site, so much great info! Thanks again!
sdlufkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 06:05 AM   #7
AriochIV
Analyst
 
AriochIV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 3,705
Thanks very much for the comments and the broken link correction.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cccv View Post
Third comment-- I notice you speculate a bit about which unit the UUs will replace (and in the case of musketeers you state outright that they will replace musketmen). Have we ever been told that the UUs will be replacing regular units this time? Given that UUs are going to be really unique this time and not just regular units with little bonuses, I would actually guess that they won't.
We haven't been told this, but I think we have strong evidence of it. On the The French version of the tech tree that we see in the first gameplay video, the Musketeer is the only item under Gunpowder, appearing to have replaced the regular Musketman. It's true that I'm assuming that the Musketman is still under Gunpowder, but I think that's a pretty safe assumption.
AriochIV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 06:42 AM   #8
Johnny Be
Warlord
 
Johnny Be's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Lisbon - Portugal
Posts: 152
Great Page Arioch!!

May I leave a suggestion? You could also put a Strategic map hex image in terrain types.

P.S. Plains now give 1 Food and 2 Hammer?? Where did you see that? (just asking to check it out, I'm not doubting!)
__________________
Dip me in chocolate and throw me to the lesbians
Johnny Be is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 08:53 AM   #9
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
 
Commander Bello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: near Koblenz, Germany
Posts: 3,724
Hi Arioch!

Just a short remark:
The German leader will be "Otto von Bismarck" not "Otto Von Bismarck"
__________________
"It is from their critics, not their fanbois, that companies learn the lesson of making good software...." Aristophanes Bello

Civ4:Colonization
[Modmod] CB-Mod for RaR
Version 0.7.046 for RaR 2.0 available (04-JUN-2014)
(update is work in process)
Commander Bello is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 09:13 AM   #10
PinkHammurabi
Warlord
 
PinkHammurabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sewell, NJ (but from Philly!)
Posts: 220
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Be View Post

P.S. Plains now give 1 Food and 2 Hammer?? Where did you see that? (just asking to check it out, I'm not doubting!)
I'm fairly certain it should still be 1:1. In a lot of our pictures Civs are in a Golden Age which would give Plains a yield of 1:2.

However, Arioch comes up with stuff from vids that I didn't see so maybe that's changed and/or I'm just wrong.

And though I've said it before, love the site.
__________________
The Hammur
PinkHammurabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 09:43 AM   #11
Johnny Be
Warlord
 
Johnny Be's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Lisbon - Portugal
Posts: 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by PinkHammurabi View Post
I'm fairly certain it should still be 1:1. In a lot of our pictures Civs are in a Golden Age which would give Plains a yield of 1:2.

However, Arioch comes up with stuff from vids that I didn't see so maybe that's changed and/or I'm just wrong.

And though I've said it before, love the site.
If that's not the case, then plains will be much more valuable then on previous versions!

I'm not a power-player, but I remember a production analysis document made for Civ3 that showed which squares were more valuable and powerful!

I always loved those documents and analysis!! The level of complexity and strategy in a Civ game is mind boggling!
__________________
Dip me in chocolate and throw me to the lesbians
Johnny Be is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 11:23 AM   #12
AriochIV
Analyst
 
AriochIV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 3,705
Quote:
Originally Posted by PinkHammurabi View Post
I'm fairly certain it should still be 1:1. In a lot of our pictures Civs are in a Golden Age which would give Plains a yield of 1:2.
Hammur's right, I didn't take into account that most of the videos have a Golden Age going. That explains a few things.
AriochIV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 11:37 AM   #13
2K Greg
2K Games Community Manager
 
2K Greg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 370
Awesome work Arioch!
2K Greg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 12:14 PM   #14
PinkHammurabi
Warlord
 
PinkHammurabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sewell, NJ (but from Philly!)
Posts: 220
That's it, Greg? This means you won't fill in all the blanks? The second icon in the Philosophy tech in particular is bugging me. Looks like Arc de Triomphe but I don't get it's connection to Philosophy. It also reminds me of the artwork for The Sistine Chapel or Bach's Cathedral in CivIII though I don't recall which.

Edit: Second icon in Construction looks like The Great Wall.
Edit 2 (sorry still prodding): First icon in Acoustics looks to me like a grand organ in a Cathedral or something similar (e.g. Cathedral Building).
__________________
The Hammur

Last edited by PinkHammurabi; Jul 20, 2010 at 12:28 PM.
PinkHammurabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 12:18 PM   #15
Calouste
Deity
 
Calouste's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,629
Nice work Arioch

One addition I have for you is that the "Glory of Rome" has as the effect that all buildings that have already been build in the Roman capital are 20% cheaper to build in other Roman cities. (Sorry, can't remember the source.)
Calouste is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 12:19 PM   #16
SammyKhalifa
Emperor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,565
What fun would that be, Hammur?
SammyKhalifa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 12:38 PM   #17
Calouste
Deity
 
Calouste's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,629
Quote:
Originally Posted by SammyKhalifa View Post
What fun would that be, Hammur?
Wouldn't be much fun for Greg I guess. I don't think he would want to go through things item by item to see which information has been cleared for public release and which hasn't.
Calouste is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 12:42 PM   #18
PinkHammurabi
Warlord
 
PinkHammurabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sewell, NJ (but from Philly!)
Posts: 220
I was only teasing. Speculation is fun.

Though, truth be told, I wouldn't mind if he threw a bone our way.
__________________
The Hammur
PinkHammurabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 01:33 PM   #19
Thyrwyn
Guardian at the Gate
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: State College, PA
Posts: 1,289
I strongly suspect that some of the icons are for enabling one of the 10 social policy trees. The first one in Theology is similar to the art for the Piety Policy Tree (top row, 4th tree). The first icon in banking is similar to the Commerce tree (bottom right). It was stated that Tradition was the first policy tree available - not sure if it starts enabled, or is tied to an early tech.

In the image below, I think the trees are:

Top Row: Tradition, Liberty, Honor, Piety, Patronage
Bottom Row: Order, Autocracy, Freedom, Rationalism, Commerce

All of this is pure speculation, however

(Crappy image, I know - not sure of the original source)

Also: I suspect that the last icon in Education enables Research Pacts; and the last one in Currency enables Gold-trading.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	SocPolicies.jpg
Views:	1017
Size:	47.1 KB
ID:	258470  
__________________
I play King Level, Huge Maps, Marathon Speed

"We are creatures of the twilight. But it is out of our race and lineage that minds will spring, that will reach back to us in our littleness to know us better than we know ourselves, and that will reach forward fearlessly to comprehend this future that defeats our eyes." -- H. G. Wells, 1902
Thyrwyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 20, 2010, 01:40 PM   #20
Schuesseled
Deity
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,034
Tundra gives 1 food btw, it was on my list i compiled ages ago.

here we go, snag whatever you need from that:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=369530

Although probably not too much on there you haven't covered.

p.s. warrior has strength of 6 and movement of 2, but i have no screenshot to post on that.

Last edited by Schuesseled; Jul 20, 2010 at 01:48 PM.
Schuesseled is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Go Back Civilization Fanatics' Forums > CIVILIZATION V > Civ5 - Strategy & Tips > Arioch's Analyst Thread

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Advertisement

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
This site is copyright Civilization Fanatics' Center.
Support CFC: Amazon.com | Amazon UK | Amazon DE | Amazon CA | Amazon FR