LotR Series

Arathorn

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I don't know what the LotR series will hold for Civ5. In Civ3, this series was one of the more challenging and daring series. For Civ4, well, I think we had a number of interesting games, but I didn't get into Civ4 nearly like I did Civ3. I still had some fun, though. Civ5 promises to be different again. I know little of it (been trying to avoid spoilers), except that it's coming out VERY soon.

Random info -- the LotR name is in honor of _The Lord of the Rings_ -- my favorite series of books. But the games themselves have little or nothing to do with the Tolkein books, instead just being games of Civ. I play a lot of variants and a lot of semi-wacky games. If that's your cup of tea, this is a good place. If not, well, you're still highly invited to try some things out occasionally!

All games in the LotR series will be hosted by me, Arathorn. I generally run 0-2 games at a time. Anyone is welcome to sign up. Most games fill first come, first served, but it all depends on the game (the first LotR Civ5 game, for example, will be different in that regard). Please use this thread for sign-ups and/or rules questions before the game(s) begin.

General rules -- maximal ethics in play at all times. Do the right thing at the right time. Have fun. Do your best. Be courteous. Etc. etc. etc. We play whatever start we get nearly every time, even if it looks like a really bad start. Only if the variant assumes something (like early contact/fighting) will I restart. Isolated? Crunched? Bad land? We deal with it. I also highly encourage discussions and discourse and planning and thoughts and justifications and LONG reports, preferably with semi-significant detail. I also run a 24/72 system (instead of most people's 24/48) -- that is, 24 hours to claim, 72 to play and report. As long as you're there and communicating, I'm quite fine if it takes a little longer to play and report.

The first Civ5 game will be something very similar to this....

LotR28 -- Random Rollicking for Returning Refugees
Version: Civ5 out-of-the-box
Civ: Random
Difficulty: One level above the "middle"/"even" level
Win condition: Anything goes
Variant(s): NONE
Participants: For the first LotR Civ5 game, priority seating will be given based on the number of previous LotR games played in. Sign-up time will break ties. YOU MUST HAVE THE GAME IN HAND BEFORE SIGNING UP!!! Also, no beta-testers allowed. This rule is on the honor system, but all of us in LotR28 should be playing the game with very few preconceptions (just what we've gained from games on our own). Sign-ups will close September 25th at 11:59 p.m. CDT, if I have enough signed-up at that point. Sign-ups begin now, in any of the LotR threads. All other Civ5 games must be signed up for in the Civ5 thread (once it exists).
Start Date: September 26
Sign ups so far: None

Hope to see everybody around!
Arathorn
 
LotR1 – Daring Deity
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=17438
Version: Vanilla 1.17
Civ: Egypt
Difficulty: Deity
Variant: None
Roster: Arathorn, Sirian, Toecheese3, Jaffa Tamarin, Charis
Dates: February 28, 2002 - March 20, 2002
Result: Diplomatic win in 1070 AD
Score: 7189
Reasons to read: First deity SG at CFC, see weed by some later greater players, highest scoring LotR game to date, back in the screaming fast tech days

LotR2 – Zealous Zulus
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=19001
Version: Vanilla 1.17 - 1.21
Civ: Zulu
Difficulty: Monarch
Variant: Always war
Roster: Arathorn, Jester, Sirian, cpp1, Toecheese3
Dates: March 25, 2002 – June 11, 2002
Result: Domination win in 1840 AD
Score: ???
Reasons to read: Very first always war game (starting a fun variant), long LONG periods of no front change, almost a 20K culture victory

LotR3 – Emperor Training
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=21176
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=21474
Version: Vanilla 1.21 – 1.29
Civ: Iroquois
Difficulty: Emperor
Variant: Training
Roster: Arathorn, Architect, Brian J, charliehoke, LKendter, D9Phoenix, JMB, JollyRoger
Dates: April 25, 2002 – July 25, 2002
Result: Abandoned in 250 AD in a solid position
Score: N/A
Reasons to read: Few – some discussions of city specialization, micromanagement, and scouting practices

LotR4 – 5CC Conquest (5CCC)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=26358
Version: Vanilla 1.21 – 1.29
Civ: Japan
Difficulty: Monarch
Variant: 5CCC
Roster: Arathorn, meldor, Jaffa Tamarin, T-hawk
Dates: July 2, 2002 – September 19, 2002
Result: Conquest win in 1645 AD
Score: 2460
Reasons to read: An early 5CCC, some fun city names

LotR5 – Tactless Darius
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=49590
Version: PTW 1.21
Civ: Persia
Difficulty: Deity
Variant: Tactless – no initiating diplomacy or bargaining
Roster: Arathorn, Gothmog, Charis, JMB, T-hawk
Dates: April 3, 2003 – May 22, 2003
Result: Cultural loss in 1824 AD
Score: ???
Reasons to read: Successful early aggression, worker migration, how much no trade hurts, which type of loss will it be, final desperate gasp failing badly

LotR6 – Progressive Paranoia
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=54625
Version: PTW 1.21
Civ: Ottomans
Difficulty: Deity
Variant: Worse diplomacy each age, from no limits to AW
Roster: Arathorn, Gothmog, Skyfish, T-hawk, JMB
Dates: May 29, 2003 – August 4, 2003
Result: Conquest victory in 1854 AD
Score: 5620
Reasons to read: Early dogpile successfully beaten, dry start, the power of sipahi, craziest beachhead in the LotR series, nukes, race to finish

LotR7 – Passive Culturalists
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=59054
Version: PTW 1.21
Civ: Babylon
Difficulty: Deity
Variant: Passive, going for 100K culture victory on deity
Roster: Arathorn, JMB, Skyfish, Gothmog, Bam-Bam
Dates: July 18, 2003 – November 4, 2003
Result: Spaceship loss in 1760 AD
Score: 2800
Reasons to read: Limitations of cultural warfare, the power of a runaway AI

LotR8a – Crazy Celts
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=60779
Version: PTW 1.21 – 1.27
Civ: Celts
Difficulty: Monarch
Variant: Wild, unpredictable roles for each leader
Roster: Arathorn, TriviAl, Snaproll, meldor, Karasu
Dates: August 6, 2003 – November 19, 2003
Result: Domination win in 1882 AD
Score: 5362
Reasons to read: Just for the roles, some good write-ups, a number of hilarious quotes

LotR8b – Irrational Iroquois
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=60782
Version: PTW 1.21
Civ: Iroquois
Difficulty: Regent
Variant: Wild, unpredictable roles for each leader (open game)
Participants: Arathorn, ControlFreak, Sirian, Sullla, Coffee, Puzzlinon, cgannon64, JMB, Northern Pike, Grimjack, JustBen, Shadowfax, T-hawk, LKendter, Skyfish, hotrod0823, Brewster, a space oddity, Dark Savant, Reagan, KELLO, KotatsuNeko, jack merchant, Rik Meleet, ChrTh
Dates: August 6, 2003 – September 27, 2003
Result: Domination win in 1768 AD
Score: 3799
Reasons to read: For the roles, the “camping out” to grab the game, the number of participants, the extreme builder phase at the end

LotR9 – Open eXtreme Variants
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...threadid=66265
Version: PTW 1.27
Civ: Persia
Difficulty: Regent
Variant: OCC, AW, Infantry, Despotic, Conquest
Participants: Arathorn, Belisar, T_McC, Deatvert, 6thGenTexan, LKendter, Coffee
Dates: October 17, 2003 – October 21, 2003
Result: Conquest win in 110 BC
Score: 6529
Reasons to read: Quick and fun, lots of variants, IMMORTALS

LotR10 – Scouting Sid
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=67720
Version: C3C 1.00 – 1.12 – 1.13
Civ: Netherlands
Difficulty: Sid
Variant: (see difficulty)
Participants: Arathorn, Bam-Bam, Skyfish, Speaker, Reagan, Gothmog
Date: November 5, 2003 – January 13, 2004
Result: Diplomatic victory in 1585 AD
Score: 6532
Reasons to read: First successful Sid game recorded anywhere to my knowledge, complete early Sid dogpile, Sid victory with no bonus food at start, Sid victory without building the Great Library, nuking the UN site to win by diplomacy, ultra-bombers, breath-taking final 22 turns

LotR11 – Mayan Menace
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...threadid=67724
Version: C3C 1.00
Civ: Maya
Difficulty: Demi-god
Variant: Maximum Aggression opponents
Roster: Arathorn, LKendter, Arizona_Steve, Coffee, Belisar
Dates: November 5, 2003 – December 9, 2003
Result: Domination victory in 1395 AD
Score: ???
Reasons to read: Combat, buying armies with cash from captured cities

LotR12 – In AWE of Rome
http://forums.civfanatics.com/archiv...p/t-75983.html
Version: C3C 1.15
Civ: Rome
Difficulty: Emperor
Variant: Always War (AWE)
Roster: Arathorn, Arizona_Steve, (Ridgelake, T-hawk, Aggie)
Dates: January 19, 2004 – January 20, 2004
Result: Conquest loss in 2800 BC
Score: ??? (very low)
Reason to read: Very short and fast

LotR13 – Schizo SGers
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=86752
Version: C3C 1.15
Civ: Custom (Japan)
Difficulty: Monarch
Variant: Passive Always War
Roster: Arathorn, Kylerean, T-hawk, Arizona_Steve, T_McC
Dates: April 29, 2004 – June 22, 2004
Result: Domination win in 1878 AD
Score: ???
Reason to read: Propaganda, city names, culture flips, resource battles

LotR14 – RAW (and uncut?)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=92212
Version: C3C 1.22
Civ: Aztecs
Difficulty: Regent
Variant: Always war – 32 civs on a small map, limited armies
Roster: Arathorn, Kylerean, Reagan, T-hawk, Speaker
Dates: June 25, 2004 – July 30, 2004
Result: Domination win in 720 AD
Score: 4570
Reason to read: Earliest SG city sacking, 31 foes in AW, extremely early combat

LotR15 – Open Regent with a Twist
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=92599
Version: C3C 1.22
Civ: China (random)
Difficulty: Regent
Variant: 100 turns of shift-enter at the beginning (LATE start)
Participants: Arathorn, Zwingli, Kylerean, microbe, 6thGenTexan, grs, LKendter, Coilean, SesnofWthr, T_McC, Foresight
Dates: June 29, 2004 – August 1, 2004
Result: Domination win in 1772 AD
Score: 2201
Reason to read: Recovery from a huge hole

Arathorn
 
LotR16 – Happy Halloween
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=135506
Version: Civ4 (out-of-the-box)
Civ: FDR of the Americans
Difficulty: Prince
Variant: None
Participants: Arathorn, Speaker, Arizona_Steve, Reagan, Jaffa Tamarin
Dates: October 31, 2005 – December 10, 2005
Result: Spaceship win in 1974 AD
Score: 10324
Reason to read: First Civ4 SG I played (possibly first Civ4 SG ever finished)

LotR17 – Dueling Deity
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=137333
Version: Civ4 (out-of-the-box)
Civ: Washington of the Americans
Difficulty: Deity
Variant: See difficulty
Participants: Arathorn, grahamiam, Mark1031, Vol, bed_head7
Dates: Nov. 3, 2005 – Dec. 22, 2005
Result: Time loss in 2040 AD
Score: low
Reason to read: Experimenting way above difficulty level

LotR18 – No Cottage Challenge
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=145463
Version: Civ4 (?)
Civ: Peter of the Russians
Difficulty: Prince
Variant: No cottages allowed
Participants: Arathorn, ThERat, Obormot, Speaker, Jabah
Dates: Dec. 2, 2005 – Jan. 16, 2006
Result: Domination victory in 1955 AD
Score: 10K+
Reason to read: Farms, good discussion on building location

LotR19 – Epic Immortality
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=147428
Version: Civ4 (?)
Civ: England
Difficult: Immortal
Variant: None
Participants: Arathorn, Kylearan, Islandia, Shillen, ThERat
Dates: Dec. 12, 2005 – Jan. 22, 2006
Result: Diplomatic victory in 1782 AD
Score: High
Reason to read: One of the earliest high-level Civ4 SGs (and a win to boot)

LotR20 – Wild War
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3443208
Version: Civ4 (?)
Civ: Napoleon of the French
Difficulty: Prince
Variant: Always War
Participants: Arathorn, Jaffa Tamarin, Arizona_Steve, Greebley, Zed-F
Dates: Dec. 12, 2005 – Jan. 1, 2006
Result: Conquest loss in 1530 AD
Score: low
Reason to read: AW loss is always exciting

LotR21 – Revenge
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3597664
Version: Civ4 (?)
Civ: Greece
Difficulty: Noble
Variant: Always War
Participants: Arathorn, Jaffa Tamarin, Arizona_Steve, Greebley, Zed-F
Dates: Jan. 19, 2006 – Feb. 28, 2006
Result: Abandoned due to inevitable conquest lost
Score: Not recorded
Reason to read: Another AW loss

LotR22 – Insane Izzy
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3626029
Version: Civ4 1.52
Civ: Isabella of Spain
Difficulty: Prince
Variant: Religion Fanatic (custom variant)
Participants: Arathorn, LKendter, Jabah, Kylearan, MadDogTrebonius
Dates: Jan. 26, 2006 – Mar. 27, 2006
Result: Domination win in 1920 AD
Score: ?
Reason to read: Early game discussions/work with keeping Spain pure of heretical religions

LotR23 – Only One (Built)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252276
Version: Civ4 BtS 3.13
Civ: Vikings
Difficulty: Prince
Variant: Can only build one city, must win by domination
Participants: Arathorn, LKendter, Strauss, Admiral Kutzov, Tartan
Dates: Nov. 25, 2007 – Dec. 12, 2007
Result: Domination win in 1290 AD
Score: 125897
Reason to read: Conquer, conquer, conquer

LotR24 – French Menagerie
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=6242446
Version: Civ4 BtS 3.13
Civ: French
Difficulty: Monarch
Variant: All UUs enabled
Participants: Arathorn, T_McC, LKendter, Jabah, Refar
Dates: Dec. 11, 2007 – Jan. 24, 2008
Result: Domination win in 1786 AD
Score: 121742
Reason to read: Every UU – c’mon, what more excuse do you need?

LotR25 – Corporate Culture
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=258998
Version: Civ4 BtS
Civ: Gandhi of the Indians
Difficulty: Monarch
Variant: Must win by culture without artists or cultural slider
Participants: Arathorn, Methos, Tatran, Admiral_Kutzov, LKendter
Dates: Jan. 14, 2008 – Feb. 24, 2008
Result: Culture win in 1889 AD
Score: Not recorded
Reason to read: Dissolution of group, culture concerns, corporation’s cultural power, solo finish after some thought the game was lost

LotR26 – Mounted Mongols
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=6554443
Version: Civ4 BtS
Civ: Napoleon of the Mongols
Difficulty: Emperor
Variant: No move-1 units allowed. Must win by military
Participants: Arathorn, darrelljs, Jabah, Ozbenno, Kylearan
Dates: Mar. 1, 2008 – Apr. 9, 2008
Result: Domination win in 1680 AD
Score: 146087
Reason to read: Power of offense

LotR27 – Science-Scorning Spacists
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=8710508
Version: Civ4 BtS
Civ: Huayna Capac of the Incas
Difficulty: Emperor
Variant: Must win by space. No science-boosting abilities allowed
Participants: Arathorn, ZPV, Methos, Rex Tyrannus, Ozbenno
Dates: Dec. 8, 2009 – Mar. 22, 2010
Result: Spaceship win in 1930 AD
Score: 31848
Reason to read: Catch-up from early hole, stealing tech after tech after tech, tech trading, destruction of competing spaceship

Arathorn
 
I think Civ 5 is the most adaptable to LotR play. After all, they included The One Ring as a resource!!! (OK, so they also included the Nine and the Three...) Seriously, the first time I saw the Gold symbol on the map, which was during the ustream, I totally thought Hey you found The One Ring!!!
 
Yes, owning a Steam copy is "in-hand." I just don't want people who are waiting for mail-orders to arrive signing up. I still like the physical feeling of a disc in hand, but I'm an old fogey.

Signed up for LotR28:
Arathorn (all)
Corbeau (0) -- unless I'm missing something

Sign-ups still open and priority seating for previous LotR participants.

Arathorn
 
Arathorn, since steam went so smooth yesterday + I successfully played the demo on my new rig, I will have my game activated Friday morning 7am (Singapore time), which means Thursday afternoon in America.

If by then your roster isn't full yet, I would be really glad to join.
 
I did not play much Civ4 and sure do not have any knowledge of V, but I do have the game working, so if you need another body count me in.
 
I'll put myself forward as a low-priority member. Just finished my first game of Civ 5 (oh god I have class in seven hours, stupid One More Turn), cruising to an easy win on Prince, so King should be doable. But if your vets show up, by all means fit them in.
 
Looks like we have 5, pending LotR vets coming in:
Arathorn
Corbeau
ThERat
vmxa
Aretii

And for those who are unhappy about the deadline on this one, don't worry. This won't be the only game I'm running. I'm looking at starting another one Oct. 1 or so. Not sure on all the details yet, but I'll be posting in 10ish days.

Arathorn
 
Whatever SG you wnat me to put me in would be good for me. My first game was Greece/ Warlord/ Standard All. It resulted in a Domination win, somewhat challenging though. I'll warn you before hand that I don't expect Civ5 to be easy for me and this will be my Low-Priority SG for a couple of months.
 
I'll put myself forward as a low-priority member. Just finished my first game of Civ 5 (oh god I have class in seven hours, stupid One More Turn), cruising to an easy win on Prince, so King should be doable. But if your vets show up, by all means fit them in.

Lol... I had the same experience. I just finish a long game, I look up, and I have two hours until class.

Just skip the class. It's just Physics anyway.
 
Wow - lurk mode on.


Several names I recall from when I was active - good luck

You! I remember lurking your SGs in CIII and IV days. It's nice to see you still around!

Crap, having LK watching puts the pressure on. MUST FIND INNER TRANQUILITY :borg:
 
Well we shall see if Civ V can get ThERat to put down CCM for bit
Ha, CCM is a truly great mod, I am still enjoying that.

So, with that preliminary roster, what are the plans for the game? Looking at some feedback and some of the demo impressions I get, money/food and happiness are crucial. That said, what are we aiming for? Conquest, space or else?

It seems diplomatic win is currently broken as are a few other things. For example, it seems you can do the bad old ROP rape, which I think should be banned for our game. Also, breaking deals shouldn't be allowed, we are playing honorable, don't we?

LK, great to see you, aren't you going to get Civ 5?
 
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