[FIXED] Research Doesn't Overflow

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I've seen this multiple times now where I only need 5 more beakers to research a tech. Next turn I pick a new tech to research and one turn after that, the only progress towards researching the new tech is my beakers per turn. This is ridiculous because we no longer have a way to choose how much research we produce per turn. Why should my civilization be wasted 50 beakers doing nothing?
 
KCMcG said:
I've seen this multiple times now where I only need 5 more beakers to research a tech. Next turn I pick a new tech to research and one turn after that, the only progress towards researching the new tech is my beakers per turn. This is ridiculous because we no longer have a way to choose how much research we produce per turn. Why should my civilization be wasted 50 beakers doing nothing?
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Yeah I've noticed this too. Beakers don't overflow and they also aren't converted to gold. I've yet to see them have any positive effect at all. Not really a bug, but it annoys the crap out of me having so much research go to waste.
 
I'm not sure about production. I read somewhere that it overflows, just that it doesn't show it in the display. I haven't noticed that overflowing either.
 
I kind of feel like the developers took certain things out that were unbalancing/exploitable and then forgot to add them back in when the changed the system so that the system was no longer unbalancing/exploitable.

Example:
Production overflows were unbalanced because you could whip population and use the overflow to rush a project. I think they may have taken production overflow out to help balance the game. However, now that the whip is no longer an option, production overflow would be more balanced.

They also took out the ability to rush with gold, you can only buy units/buildings in their entirety. I don't see why production shouldn't overflow.
 
I'm pretty sure they DO overflow, although your city governors may adjust specialists to match the amount needed and you shoudl note that when you chose a new tech, they are not added immediately (wait until next turn). Can you post a save?

Edit - OK - tested it myself, and it looks like its not. :hmm:

Mining with one turn to go, should have over-run of 4 beakers.


Complete and select The Wheel. Not added immediately.


Next turn, and progress towards "The Wheel" is only 7, my science output.


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ainwood said:
I'm pretty sure they DO overflow, although your city governors may adjust specialists to match the amount needed and you shoudl note that when you chose a new tech, they are not added immediately (wait until next turn). Can you post a save?

Edit - OK - tested it myself, and it looks like its not. :hmm:
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Thanks for confirming. I should have attached screenshots myself. It was 5 beakers left on Metal Casting I think with 55 beakers per turn. Two turns later, only 55 beakers on Steel.
 
DaviddesJ said:
What kind of micromanagement are you thinking of? I don't see much that one is going to be able to do that is worth doing.
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There's not much you can do, but you can pull scientist specialists out of libraries and stop working Academies for that last turn to try to get the science exact.
 
KCMcG said:
I've seen this multiple times now where I only need 5 more beakers to research a tech. Next turn I pick a new tech to research and one turn after that, the only progress towards researching the new tech is my beakers per turn. This is ridiculous because we no longer have a way to choose how much research we produce per turn. Why should my civilization be wasted 50 beakers doing nothing?
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Another annoying bug :(
 
MadmanAtW said:
There's not much you can do, but you can pull scientist specialists out of libraries and stop working Academies for that last turn to try to get the science exact.
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Usually you don't have enough specialists and academies to get this exact, so every tech you start researching, you have to calculate how much overflow you'll be wasting, taking into account city growth in every city, and adjust research each turn to hit the correct number.
 
I've been micromanaging. There's nothing more aggravating than ending turn with 1 turn to completion, only to find out a puppet-state changed it's specialists and you now need 3 beakers for the next tech while the remaining 200 beakers get wasted.
 
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