Edinburgh city-state should not be 'militaristic'

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Edinburgh, the capital city of Scotland, is renowned for its culture and not for waging war.

Accordingly, Edinburgh MUST be made into a cultural rather than militaristic city-state in the next patch.

Firaxis take note and please provide acknowledgement of this demand.
 
I dunno, your post sounds pretty aggressive, and you're making demands. That seems sort of militaristic to me.
 
Yeah, Scotland has always been about 10% of Britain's population but was about 25% of the Victorian army. Thats a lot of units gifted.

A better solution would be to add Glasgow as a Cultured city state as its been a European City of Culture and Edinburgh hasn't, and Aberdeen added as a Maritiime city state.
 
Ever heard of the Edinburgh military tattoo? That's where us outsiders get our view of Scotland from, that is the face you present to the world, and that's why Edinburgh is militaristic.

Well that and Braveheart.
 
Horizons said:
:mad:

Edinburgh, the capital city of Scotland, is renowned for its culture and not for waging war.

Accordingly, Edinburgh MUST be made into a cultural rather than militaristic city-state in the next patch.

Firaxis take note and please provide acknowledgement of this demand.
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Maybe SOMEONE would take you SERIOUSLY if you WEREN'T so MAD sounding.:p
 
Skwink Caesar said:
Maybe SOMEONE would take you SERIOUSLY if you WEREN'T so MAD sounding.:p
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Dude, he's scottish, dont tick him off.
*pour oil on the fire*

No but seriously, its a fine line between any of the 3 city state types.
Could you REALLY call Edinburgh a cultural citystate, compared to some of the other cities in the world? I mean, every city has culture and or landmarks, more or less. The tricky thing is to balance it in the GAME, what a city represents.

And frankly, in my opinion (maybe its wrong), when i think of Edinburgh i neither think of incredibly culture to span the ages, martime is more okay considering harbours and important trade in the past, and militaristic is also more okay considering the same harbour (fleets) or just the fact that there's no other citytypes left in the game..
 
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that they didn't agonize for hours over whether or not to make Edinburgh Militaristic or Cultural.

If they did spend hours on deciding it, then shame on them, they could have been doing something a lot more productive.
 
Last I heard that this was a three day discussion where for last 24 hours Sid forced them all to stay in the office to finally decide what is it going to be.

After much deliberation, a fight broke out, where the pro culture supporters lost (although more numerous) to the militaristic faction, so after much deliberation and bloodshed the decision was made, even though allegedly one set by force and not diplomacy. So we have it in the game now.:dubious:
 
I don't know enough about Edinburgh to make a call, but what actually surprised me is that Firaxis labeled Venice as "maritime". Granted, it does have a rich naval tradition, but when I hear "Venice" the images that come to mind are those of carnivals, gondolas and Murano glass, not food.
 
I think when compared to Florence, it makes sense for Venice to be the City-State of the sea, Florence to be the one of culture (Michelangelo, Brunelleschi, etc).

The one that really confused me was Tyre. Phoenician City-State. Famous for trade across the Mediterranean. Set up colonies (like Carthage, another naval power). The Phoenician navy was the navy of the Persian Empire, etc. No idea why it's militaristic in the game. I suppose balance, but I can think of plenty of militaristic City-States if they wanted to add any.
 
I may be in the minority, but i really could careless if Tyre or Venice is cultural or not..... I'm happy that the game assigns them the city state values and it doesn't change. So I when i see dublin, i know what i'm getting and such.

But its nice to know people still care about history....
 
What's the big deal?

Change it --

Near as I can tell, the Civ5MinorCivilizations.xml file just requires you to change
<MinorCivTrait>MINOR_TRAIT_MILITARISTIC</MinorCivTrait>
to
<MinorCivTrait>MINOR_TRAIT_CULTURED</MinorCivTrait>

I guess you wouldn't be able to play MP.... and perhaps you'd want to flip a cultured CS to militaristic to keep the balance, but it's easily rectified situation if you feel strongly about it.
 
Senethro said:
A better solution would be to add Glasgow as a Cultured city state as its been a European City of Culture and Edinburgh hasn't, and Aberdeen added as a Maritiime city state.
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Is that really an accomplishment hard to achieve ?

I don't know much about Edinburgh, but somehow I too was surprised about it being militaristic. But anyway I don't think they thought much about what they name things - if you look at city names major civs get, you'll see that they don't make much sense either - like Egypt gets Thebes, Luxor and Karnak, which is wrong on many levels or England seems to get names from places not in England and shares a city name (Richmond) with USA.

Suggest you take legal desclimer more seriously (the last sentence in it - thou shalt not think the game depicts reality)
 
Edinburgh is a military centre. In Scotland Edinburgh acted as the centre of power for centuries as it gave reasonable access to all areas of Scotland. It was easy for the King of Scots to travel, build armies etc


@Senethro

Scotland has not always been 10% of England's population. It used to be higher, it has simply remained static for centuries but I am simply reminding you that Scotland, for the moment, has 10% of the population of England... If you include Wales and Ireland it's less, roughly 7-8%.
 
Edinburgh has a really cool Royal Castle that certainly shows a lot of militaristicness and indeed is/was home to at least two regiments. Scotland is a beautiful country, and Edinburgh not much elss so (only less in the fact that its a big city, its still a rather nice big city or at least the castle area is :p).
 
I have a better idea - Edinburgh only shows up as a city-state if England is one of the civs on the map. What have the Scots ever accomplished on the world stage other than fight the English? They are like the Joker: they need Batman (the English) in order to have a reason to exist
 
Brawndo said:
I have a better idea - Edinburgh only shows up as a city-state if England is one of the civs on the map. What have the Scots ever accomplished on the world stage other than fight the English? They are like the Joker: they need Batman (the English) in order to have a reason to exist
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That is just a plain ignorant and insulting post :confused:
is nationalism allowed on this forum?:confused:
 
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