Civ 4 to Civ 3 Improvements conversions poll

nick0515 · Mar 19, 2011

I'm thinking about doing some more Civ 4 Improvements conversion packs (See my Wood Elf Pack here).

The packs I'm considering converting are all made by Walter Hawkwood and are conversions for Civ 4 from other games (Kohan 2 and Anno 1404).

Please vote on what you would like me to do first and I'll convert the most popular ones first. You can vote for more than one set and the poll has no time limit. They are all fantasy sets except the Middle Eastern buildings pack, although some of the fantasy buildings could probably be used for non-fantasy purposes.

All conversions will include normal civ 3 background and Kyriakos background versions.

Kyriakos background

There are other Walter Harkward packs that I might do later after all of these are finished. Specifically he has some non-fantasy packs from other games. I want to mainly focus on the fantasy stuff first though. Note that 12 of the undead buildings were already done by mrt here

Here are the options:

1. Middle Eastern building pack

2. Drauga

3. Shadow

4. Undead

5. Dwarves

6. Humans

tom2050 · Mar 19, 2011

Those are really some great graphics and buildings! You are right, many could be used for a variety of non-fantasy sets as well.

Human and Middle-East obviously have the most non-fantasy use. Shadow is just cool, plus I have a mana siphon growing in my neighborhood.

nick0515 · Mar 19, 2011

tom2050 said:
Shadow is just cool, plus I have a mana siphon growing in my neighborhood.

I like the shadow too, though I have no use for it at the moment. I suspect it would be one of the harder ones for me to do. With my simplistic cut 'n' past method it can be a little hard to maintain the glow effects.

At the moment I open the files up in NifScope then take a screenshot when I have positioned them in a roughly isometric manner. Then I get rid of the black background, scale them down and cut 'n' past to appropriate backgrounds.

Ozymandias · Mar 19, 2011

Middle East; Dwarves; Humans. All have unique and/or multi-civ/multi-purpose buildings I'm drooling over (e.g., Sultan's Residence & Alamut; Libraries & Factory; Bank and Blacksmiths.)

Tally-ho,

z

nick0515 · Mar 21, 2011

Well looks like people want the Middle East pack most. Not surprising really. I may start it tonight. Shouldn't take too long as it's a small pack. Might even be able to post it tonight.

nick0515 · Mar 22, 2011

I'm also going to try and make some city sets out of these buildings. They won't look like much compared with more professionally produced city sets such as Kyriakos', Ogedai's and RedAlert's, but they might be passable.

And the Islamic buildings pack is almost done. Will post it later today or tomorrow after I test them in-game. Just 3 more houses to convert.

Rob (R8XFT) · Mar 22, 2011

I'm glad you've done the middle-east set. I'd eyed out these buildings (converted by Walter Hawkwind I believe) and was thinking of converting them for my mod when I got time, but you've beaten me to it - so thanks!!

nick0515 · Mar 22, 2011

Rob (R8XFT) said:
I'm glad you've done the middle-east set. I'd eyed out these buildings (converted by Walter Hawkwind I believe) and was thinking of converting them for my mod when I got time, but you've beaten me to it - so thanks!!

No problem, Rob. As soon as I saw this latest pack from Walter Hawkwood I felt inspired to do some more conversions. It's taken me a while to find the time to do them though. There are a lot more great Civ 4 buildings I'd like to do if I manage finish all these sets.

I'm just finishing the middle east houses now and they are really interesting models. They look interesting and quite different from different angles. Each house could probably provide 3 or 4 different Civ 3 improvements if I do them from different angles. I'll just do one of each house at for now though as there probably isn't that great a need for that many non-specific Islamic buildings but if anyone has a need just let me know and I'll do the houses from different angles.

I must find some time to play your demo, Rob. Next to fantasy, Ancient mods and scenarios are my favourites to play.

Ozymandias · Mar 22, 2011

I'd like to put in a special request (if I may) for the Human Bank. It's the best / most iconic-looking example of a building to use for a pre-industrial Bank that I've seen.

,

Oz

nick0515 · Mar 22, 2011

Ozymandias said:
I'd like to put in a special request (if I may) for the Human Bank. It's the best / most iconic-looking example of a building to use for a pre-industrial Bank that I've seen.

,

Oz

Sure, Oz. The human set seems to be the next most popular anyway so I'll do that next. I'll do the bank first though and release it individually.

If anyone else has a need for any single building here I can do it straight away as it doesn't take very long to do just one building.

The Islamic set is finished. I just need to test it in game when I get home tonight then I can post it.

Ozymandias · Mar 22, 2011

nick0515 said:
Sure, Oz. The human set seems to be the next most popular anyway so I'll do that next. I'll do the bank first though and release it individually.

If anyone else has a need for any single building here I can do it straight away as it doesn't take very long to do just one building.

The Islamic set is finished. I just need to test it in game when I get home tonight then I can post it.

As I've said before -- You, Sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

- :king:

z

nick0515 · Mar 23, 2011

Just did the bank quickly and uploaded it. Haven't tested it but it should be fine.

EDIT: Middle East pack is finished and uploaded here.

Ozymandias · Mar 23, 2011

nick0515 said:
Just did the bank quickly and uploaded it. Haven't tested it but it should be fine.

EDIT: Middle East pack is finished and uploaded here.

,

-

z

Blue Monkey · Mar 23, 2011

nick0515 said:
I'm also going to try and make some city sets out of these buildings.

nick0515 said:
I'm just finishing the middle east houses now and they are really interesting models. They look interesting and quite different from different angles. Each house could probably provide 3 or 4 different Civ 3 improvements if I do them from different angles.

So you've got a way to vary your cities both between sizes & eras.

nick0515 · Mar 23, 2011

Blue Monkey said:
So you've got a way to vary your cities both between sizes & eras.

Yes, quite a lot of variation would be possible. My attempts so far haven't looked very good though. Also at civ scale most of the detail is lost so the variation might not be very noticable. I'll keep trying though. Making the cities 1.5 size should help show more variation and detail.

tom2050 · Mar 23, 2011

They Middle East pack looks good! These are perfect Civ 3 buildings (and cities). It's a bummer when some detail is lost from shrinking the graphic, but that's a good idea to make it a bit bigger. :goodjob:

Blue Monkey · Mar 23, 2011

sometimes increasing contrast & playing with brightness/saturation before reduction helps preserve a little of the detail. Doing so without making the result garish takes some practice.

nick0515 · Mar 24, 2011

Good idea to try changing the brightness etc on the buildings before shrinking them.

They are great buildings, as you say, Tom, so I'll keep trying to make something. I especially want to make cities out of the fantasy sets for my own mod.

Blue Monkey · Mar 24, 2011

Learned it from trying to make small tech icons that looked as good as the large. It does take some experimentation. One trick I learned is that sometimes making things a little garish, reducing and then toning down the saturation/contrast/whatever gets a good result.

nick0515 · Mar 29, 2011

Going to start on the human pack now as it's clearly the second most popular. Proabably take a bit longer though.

Civ 4 to Civ 3 Improvements conversions poll

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Middle Eastern Pack

Drauga

Shadow

Undead

Dwarves

Human

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