[275] Tooltip should say: must be in own territory to upgrade

While playing Catherine I had a unit that was up for promotion. I had the necessary cash and was in the territory of a City State that was a Friend. Yet it said I wasn't in "friendly territory". How friendly can it get?



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This was a recent patch change, you can now only upgrade in your own territory. So I suppose the bug is that the tooltip needs to be changed.

MouseyPounds said:

This was a recent patch change, you can now only upgrade in your own territory. So I suppose the bug is that the tooltip needs to be changed.

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Fair enough. That means it's a confirmed bug, but a different bug. Which patch was this changed in?

I change the bug description to: Tooltip needs to say: you must be in your own territory to upgrade, rather than being in "friendly" territory.

It was patch 1.0.1.275. Quoting the Patch Notes:

2K Greg said:

Units: Fixed a problem that was allowing units to upgrade in territories that were not their own.

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I think you can upgrade in allied territory though

You used to be able to upgrade in allied territory. You cannot anymore; it has to be your own territory now.

Does anyone have specifics on how the "embarkation" upgrade works?

Recently I've been playing with my initial explorer(s) set to auto explore. Sometimes when I get the embarkation upgrade they seem to get it, and can access water tiles. Sometimes they don't, and I have to manually get them back into my territory, and the second they enter, they are granted the promotion.

My guess is that Friendly or Allied City States allow the unit to get the upgrade, but I don't know for sure. Does anyone know specifically? It's been really nagging me lately.

Yes the embarkation thing is weird, it says "can embark from your territory" but sometimes (most of time) you can embark anywhere, sometimes you can't, and there is no tech that allow embarkation from anywhere... so I wondered what was giong on with that... didn't know it was considered like an upgrade though... this may explain that.

Misterboy said:

Does anyone have specifics on how the "embarkation" upgrade works?

Recently I've been playing with my initial explorer(s) set to auto explore. Sometimes when I get the embarkation upgrade they seem to get it, and can access water tiles. Sometimes they don't, and I have to manually get them back into my territory, and the second they enter, they are granted the promotion.

My guess is that Friendly or Allied City States allow the unit to get the upgrade, but I don't know for sure. Does anyone know specifically? It's been really nagging me lately.

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Naokaukodem said:

Yes the embarkation thing is weird, it says "can embark from your territory" but sometimes (most of time) you can embark anywhere, sometimes you can't, and there is no tech that allow embarkation from anywhere... so I wondered what was giong on with that... didn't know it was considered like an upgrade though... this may explain that.

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For a unit to gain the embarkation promotion, you must

(1) have researched Optics

AND

(2) have walked the unit into friendly territory, at which point it gets the promotion.

Afterwards, you can walk the unit out of friendly territory, and it will retain the promotion.

The latter part is often overlooked or misunderstood by many players. It means that researching the tech alone is not enough; your unit must be in or walk into friendly territory. It also means that you can embark outside of friendly territory, but your unit must have entered friendly territory (a) at some time in the past but (b) after researching the tech.

Yes EndoConvert that's what i deduced from the post above mine. Still think it's pretty odd.

EndoConvert said:

For a unit to gain the embarkation promotion, you must

(1) have researched Optics

AND

(2) have walked the unit into friendly territory, at which point it gets the promotion.

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I understand that. What I'm confused about is whether "friendly territory" includes "friendly" City States and/or "allied" city states. It appears that it does. HOWEVER, you can't upgrade (as in archer to crossbowman) in friendly or allied city states... even though the description is similar.

I was looking for clarification on that.

Update: After playing around I found that selecting "Low" quality for the leader screen seems to fix the problem for me. The leader screens load very quickly now; for clarification, even when the game didn't go black, the leader screens sometimes paused a bit before loading...which always made me hold my breath because I knew an error was imminent.

In any case, the leader screens still look good. I think you lose the "shiny", but it's not a huge deal. So this is my current workaround until the next patch. I'll have my fingers crossed.

I'd still like everyone who experiences this problem, to open a tech support ticket at 2K's customer service website. That way they know that it needs to be fixed, in case it isn't on their radar at the moment.

Link:

http://support.2k.com/requests/new

(I do think you have to create an account... just an email address)