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[img=right]http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/170/hofgauntlet.jpg[/img]While the general Hall of Fame is an ongoing competition, we like to run time-definite competitions between updates that we call Gauntlets. Standard Hall of Fame rules (*) still apply, but any games meeting the settings will be counted towards the Gauntlet.

(*) Please read the >> HOF rules << BEFORE playing!​

Settings:
  • Victory Condition: Culture (though all victory conditions must be enabled)
  • Difficulty: Chieftain
  • Map Size: Standard
  • Map Type: Great Plains
  • Speed: Quick
  • Leader: Siam (Ramkhamhaeng)
  • Opponents: Any
  • Version: SV7 (1.0.1.332)
  • Date: 2nd to 15th July 2011
The earliest finish date wins, with score as a tiebreaker.

Please hold your submissions until we announce we are ready to process them.
 
I have tried this one yesterday evening and completed a turn 168 culture victory.
3 cities, policies were Tradition, Liberty, Piety, Patronage & Freedom. Wonder spam (started with GL => NC => HG => SH).
This can defintely be beaten. I started with the first map load, so didn't even have marble.

BTW: Does anybody know how to take screenshots when playing Civ5 on a MacBook (in Windows). Is there any shortcut? Wasn't able to find with Google.
 
183 turns. 3 cities, i went Liberty-Tradition-Piety-Patronnage-Freedom. 2 cities had marble and wine. Maybe the 3rd city was useless after all. I like how they tweaked cultural games.
 
Alex and Oda were really aggressive. Both declared on me, even when I had sizable army. Alex even declared on me when I had taken one of his cities - and he came back :) Never had that pre-patch even on immortal.
 
Hey, I just got this game last week (was playing on friend's version before, though), and thought I'd give this a crack.

A couple of lackluster 197ish games, but quickly realized that city-states are really the key to this. That led to a 171 turn game, but that was with a ton of mistakes, mostly related to not maximizing production at my base city at the appropriate time, so the Utopia project took like 22 turns to finish :blush:

All my games were 2 city with a lot of puppets... I don't see the purpose in having a third city, honestly.

Edit: 163 now, and I feel like that might be the best I can do. Eager to see what I'm missing if people get into the 150's.

Edit 2: Gah, didn't realize there's a newer patch out there. Time to do it for real now, I guess =/
 
173, one city again. Was 16 turns better mainly due to making friends with CS's earlier, and having Marble to help pump out the wonders.

No Wine or Incense, which probably cost a few turns, and I waited way too long to blast through the naval techs to get to Archaeology, which probably cost me a few more.
 
Pulled 177 on my first completion - 3 cities, no puppets until late-era Germany decided to give me two. All my cities had 1 or 2 wine to get monasteries up. I misplayed the policy paths, though, because I got the Freedom closer confused. I was avoiding the closers because they count as two policies but doubling up all those monuments earlier could've shaved a turn or two.

I should have RA'd harder at the end for Radio, though. Getting those towers up faster would've been critical. Utopia Project went up in 8 turns thanks to a Great General and 2 Great Engineers. (GA, Settle, Settle on Forests)

I did get marble early and hit Pyramids, Great Library, and Stonehenge. Critical failure on this one was missing the Oracle by 1 turn. I really hate Egypt. :P

- Marty Lund
 
I posted a significant improvement on tonight's attempt. Basically it came down to hording Great Scientists and Oxford University until I could just blast through late Ren and early industrial and slap up Broadcast Towers much earlier than my other couple of attempts. I also paid more attention to my policy trees in terms of when to hit the closers on Freedom, Liberty, and Piety (IE once all the remaining normal policies weren't worth it). As a result I broke through my 170 floor.

- Marty Lund
 
Blergh! The new hotfix makes all these trial times useless by removing the extra policy-cost escalation from finishers.

I guess that means sub-160 times are now on the table.

- Marty Lund
 
vexing said:
i had 155 before patch =d
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My hat's off to you, good sir. I look forward to reading about your 133 finish post-patch. :) (We should totally start a betting pool on vexing's finish times in these threads.)

- Marty Lund
 
have initial city be by incense/wine + marble,
GL (philosophy) -> nc -> a couple more settlers
build a ton of wonders,
sign a lot of RAs,
abuse legalism when you've finished acoustics to get 4 museums and build hermitage,
settle a bunch of engineers and artists,
finish piety early and freedom after that,
after 3rd round of RAs are all signed put all gold into allying city states.

after first round of RAs your neighbors should declare on you, use a few war elephants and take their best cities.
 
183-turn cultural victory by 1 city again. I signed only 1 RA, no attacking other city.

Thank you for advice, vexing. I'll give it a try, if time permits.
 
Do you guys use the GL for philosophy, or do you try and get theology/civil service with it?

It seems like such a waste to use it for philosophy, but it takes too long to get to Theo/Civil, especially if you're trying to get masonry first.
 
I overcompensated after trying for the GMajor and getting rolled, and ended up wasting 100 turns warmongering. Those elephants are SO much fun, though!
 
Temo said:
Do you guys use the GL for philosophy, or do you try and get theology/civil service with it?
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yes. i delay getting medieval techs so i have time to sign 7 classical era RAs... getting an early medieval tech would effectively double their price. (133 -> 167 + 100 for being an era ahead)
 
Is it worth holding out on Writing until Masonry is up so you have Marble to expedite the Great Library?

Also, is there any way to get a Great Engineer into play before the first wave of R.A.s pay out and just rush the P.T. to increase the payout?

- Marty Lund
 
mlund said:
Is it worth holding out on Writing until Masonry is up so you have Marble to expedite the Great Library?

Also, is there any way to get a Great Engineer into play before the first wave of R.A.s pay out and just rush the P.T. to increase the payout?
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generally no, you're delaying too many turns by waiting for writing. if you can settle on the marble that's the only way to get the bonus immediately.

you can definitely get the PT before all the first wave is complete. you should need two or three RAs to get education though. whether the sacrifices required to do that are worthwhile is a different story.
 
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