Immortal University 62 Hannibal

Habitus · Sep 9, 2011

Greetings, Immortals and would-be Immortals (and indeed any other players of any level), and welcome to the Immortal University.

Here is our Leader:

Here's the opening scene:

This is the first start, No Huts or Events, Low Seas Snaky Continents Archipelago. Enjoy all

Habitus · Sep 9, 2011

Well for me the choice is between 1S or 1E, 1S you give up fresh water, 1E you give up a turn for a 3 :commerce:

city tile due to Financial.

*edit*

I'd move the warrior 1SE as with the hill you should be able to see the unforested tile 2E to see if saving a turn to improve it if a resource is worth anything (thou Corn is likely to be first improvement so shouldn't matter)

vranasm · Sep 9, 2011

since you chose archipelago... coastal for sure.

I think 1S is probably easiest choice, a little bit problem how to make the corn wet and of course a little bit the health

Habitus · Sep 9, 2011

Thats partly the reason i'm liking 1E too, the turn it costs you will be made back in :commerce:

terms fairly quickly from the city tile, and with CS Corn becomes wet

It saves a turn on your work boat as well

lymond · Sep 9, 2011

I hate losing the fresh water but 1S looks better for the hammers and GLH. Corn can be irrigated with 2 farms from the SW, it appears, although cottages would be nice for what appears to be a decent Bureau cap - with trade routes to boot

CuddlesKill · Sep 9, 2011

Hannibal on archipelago? One of my favorite combos! I'd love to play this on my far from immortal skill level. Is that possible?

Habitus · Sep 9, 2011

1S goes better for building workboat first as well since you can do the 3 :food:

grow to pop2 work 2 1 :food:

2

tiles to finish it. 1E actually looks like it only has a single grass forest hill for a 1 :food:

2

tile. The extra forest to chop could be useful for GLH, I think I'll end up 1E when i play but wouldn't think 1S was anything wrong

GenerallyGreat · Sep 9, 2011

CuddlesKill said:
Hannibal on archipelago? One of my favorite combos! I'd love to play this on my far from immortal skill level. Is that possible?

Open the save, save it in world builder then load it. You'll get a starting menu that will ask you to pick your leader then difficulty level. Try not to spoiler yourself too much!

TheMeInTeam · Sep 9, 2011

Why would you go WB first when you can AG -----> irrigate corn + mine gems?!

I am somewhat ambivalent over 1S due to losing the health. I actually like 1E somewhat; settling on a spice tile as FIN means city tile is 2 :food:

1

3

, and a 3 :commerce city tile is pretty neato. Combined with the gems it leaves a lot of interesting options, not the least of which is a nigh-guaranteed oracle of something pretty good.

Although GLH is more popular and deserves its reputation, do not discount something like colossus. 4 :commerce:

coast for the first half of the game is very strong, and opens up a lot of tile improvement flexibility for a trait that frequently lacks it.

Grashopa · Sep 9, 2011

Colossus is ridiculous with FIN. Ocean tiles are 3c as well. You don't need workers, just work boats and as many settlers as possible. You'll have 10+ cities each one growing into a 4 commerce tile per pop! And with this map type its even stronger.

AbsoluteZero · Sep 9, 2011

I love Hannibal and that's an interesting start. I'll give this a go after my Sury game.

GenerallyGreat · Sep 9, 2011

This conversation should really start with the moved warrior given that SE is the only place you'd move him.

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GenerallyGreat · Sep 9, 2011

Great Lighthouse should be easy enough, what's a typical Colossus build time? I've never played an arc map so I'm not confident here.

GenerallyGreat · Sep 10, 2011

100AD

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OneLeggedRhino · Sep 10, 2011

GenerallyGreat said:
This conversation should really start with the moved warrior given that SE is the only place you'd move him.

Thanks, I was waiting for that before chiming in.

1S picks up 2 river grass and 2 peaks. 1E looks like it picks up 2 coast, 2 unforested grass, and 1 unknown tile. It also loses a forest and a spices.

Anyone know if settling on spices gives an extra commerce? If so, I'd go 1E.

If not, I'd go 1S, since you get 3 additional squares that provide 3-commerce cottages right away, and going 1E loses a hills (on water-heavy maps, hills are king).

Gumbolt · Sep 10, 2011

Up to 500ad.

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Habitus · Sep 10, 2011

Its riverside so you gain the extra :commerce:

on the city tile, which due to FIN makes it a 3 :commerce:

city tile. Its the main reason for 1E being a good move as you soon catch up on the turns :commerce:

you lose

Grashopa · Sep 10, 2011

This map is quite interesting.

Jester Fool · Sep 11, 2011

@ Grashopa : Very fun (/ frustrating map). You should play the map. You might need to go a little bit unconventional though - I don't want to spoil anything but the map IS a good map (but you might not want to get all the obvious wonders).

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GenerallyGreat · Sep 11, 2011

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