SGotM 15 Practice Game

With the sign up time for SGotM 15 nearing its end I've decided to post a test game to see if any more people could be interested.

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SGOTM 15 - The Missionary

Thanks for this scenario once more go to neilmeister, who brought you The Wizard of Oz.

Gandhi has finally completed his training, after years of diligent study, he has mastered the ways of a Hindu priest. The temple that he grew up living next to, has accepted him to join them, but the voyage home is a long and treacherous one. He is of course caught at sea by vikings. They sack and burn the ship, leaving everyone for dead. After days or perhaps weeks at sea, praying to Shiva , Gandhi is washed up in a strange, hostile land.

Dazed, in darkness he stumbles inland, following a river, falling asleep on a river beach. You are playing Gandhi of the Indians.

For your deliverance, you vow to spread Hinduism to this new world, and spread the name of Shiva.


Victory: The laurels will go to the team that can secure the fastest victory. Thats right, everything is in.
Level: Emperor.
Map: Custom.
Speed: Normal.
Options: Well, LOTS. Lets see, there's: No City Razing, City Flip After Conquest, Aggressive AI, No Tech Brokering, No Vassal States, No Goody Huts, No Events, Unrestricted Leaders.
Victory Conditions: All enabled
Opponents: 8 AIs.
Special Condition: You must found Hinduism, immediately convert to it as your first and only state religion, and then remain Hindu for the entire game.


As we have no idea of the Map Script used (and cause it likely to have been modified, 'Never Trust the Mapmaker' is a saying in the various XOTM games) I've picked Inland Sea as it handles the extra 2 AIs to normal best.

As the intro mentions Vikings I have added them as one of the AIs but not picked their leader, all others are random. Rest of settings are default.

The start I rolled is below (its not like the actual game at all)



If you have fun with this game you should sign up for the real thing (game is played over 4 months) or atleast keep an eye on it to see how all the teams do. If you feel like the difficulty is too high for you, please don't let that stop you as you play as a team and the rest of the team will help you when its your turn to play

Interesting idea, Habitus!

I'll see if I have time to try this...

A bit cruel start given you won't have Ah for a long while. You have made sure the player gets hinduism?

Twice so far I've gotten it, going to start my real play thru soon in 15-20 Turn steps to get people hopefully involved in planning out the next step each time

Turn 0 Chat

I feel SiP is best even thou we lose a Floodplain. I'd rather not take a chance of losing before we even begin by not gaining Hinduism. Working the Floodplain for an extra seems the best move but what to build?

Worker means we have the plains hill to mine + maybe Sheep/Pigs pre-AH
Warrior lets us scout abit more but will likely mean growing to Pop 2 with no improved tiles, and no BW to whip it away.

I'm lean towards a Warrior first just cause exploring the surrounding area and helping spawnbust sites for the 2nd city early is probably better than an idle worker.

settling on the sheep seems ideal.

You gain 1 hammer and food with a pasture on sheep. By settling on sheep you still gain that hammer.

The flood plain gains 2 food when irrigated and you gain 1 hammer by settling on sheep.

Would you lose the religion?? Hmmmm.

To lose it I would guess the AI would have to research it from T0, and if thats the case I think your likely to lose it anyway
You gain the Wine in the BFC too (thou its not a great tile), the loss of fresh water and ease of settling on the river with 2nd city for quick trade route is also lost. Also the extra hammer is often most useful in getting a worker out quicker, which isn't as good here thou a quicker warrior might be as useful since it times with the pop growth
I'm going to settle on the sheep and build a warrior i think on my play thru as in tests i just sip to make sure i could grab the required religion (if i lose it now I'll kick myself for only doing 2 tests on it lol)

Loss of trade routes and fresh water is a minor issue. The other issue is you are waiting 15 turns for AH when you can irrigate the first flood plains now. The extra hammers are useful if you choose to worker steal.

Afterall what is that worker going to do in first 15-20 turns unless you have a hill to mine.

Gumbolt said:

Loss of trade routes and fresh water is a minor issue. The other issue is you are waiting 15 turns for AH when you can irrigate the first flood plains now. The extra hammers are useful if you choose to worker steal.

Afterall what is that worker going to do in first 15-20 turns unless you have a hill to mine.

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True, was more pointing out some of the minor downsides to it. Agri - AH rather than Hunt - AH should be the best route to AH as like you said you can farm the Floodplains.

Turn 0 - Turn 13 - 3480BC, Polytheism



Save below is after winning Hindu if anyone wants to play from there

I'd have SIP, mined the pigs & sheep, and used the early hammers to build Stonehenge for the fast GPPs. You're probably going to want the Hindu shrine and/or to bulb Theocracy as AP is always going to be the fastest possible win.

It's another case of having to move our Warri first, before making a settling decision
SE will show 1, maybe 2 not forested tiles..can result in SW for settling as best plan.

what mylene said (move warrior first)

+ analize your start (what you have + what you want) after that, meaning

- counting hills
- counting food
- counting commerce
- counting green and broun tiles
- counting forests
- check for hidden ressouces (tiles without forest that seem "not fitting there")

...

only then settle, because the placement of your capital is one (or maybe THE) most important factor of your game

Rant :

@ Jester

If I hadn't of played to test you could get Hindu I would of thought more about start, but since I knew what's in bfc I decided to just play the first non-sip suggestion that some one gave some reasons for

@ Gumbolt :

I had some trouble my first few times with this map basically getting boxed in very badly by Cathy.

Played 50t so far.