Iron and Blood 2 - Sign-Up and Pre-Game Thread

Sign-Ups are now REOPENED until Wednesday the 16th of May

Game Start ETA: Week of 14th May



Good morning, afternoon and evening.

Welcome, fillies and gentlecolts, to the launch of Iron and Blood 2. Before we get started on sign-ups, though, please read through this. This is the rule set for this game (rules may change between now and when the game starts, but probably not too much).



Now that you've done that, let's get started.


Signing-up


How do I join? Fill out this application

Nation name: what you want to call it (include both short form and official form)
Flag: can be RL flag or make your own.
Color: what you want your color to be on the map.
Capital: your capital province. You will start the game with 5 IC in this province.
You can also claim up to two other provinces (so you can have up to 3 starting provinces in total (but non-capital don't start with IC). They should be connected to your capital somehow, so they must be either continguous with the capital or you can get there from the capital by sea.
Description: give a description of your country, (preferably more than a few sentences, but you don’t need to write an essay) for example who lives in your country, history, politics, government policies, religion, culture, sport, and anything else you care to add.
Factions: nominate three of the most influential factions in your country, and include its policies/ideologies.

Can I has ponies? Short answer is no. Long answer: please create plausible countries. I do care if your country is inhabited by radioactive sultanas. Our setting is 19th century alternate history Earth; your country should fit into that environment. If you can sneak in some elements of your favourite tv show or other work of fiction, that's fine as long as it blends in with the game world.

I’m not very strict about it but you are expected to know a bit about geography (for example, expect a tougher fight in mountainous Afghanistan or snowy Russia) as well as some knowledge of 19th and 20th century history, and if you show up in 1860 with televisions or aircraft carriers or a 10 million-men army, I will assume you are consciously powergaming and take appropriate action. Anyone who forms Most Interesting Nation in the Worldistan will be kicked instantly.


What can I expect?: This is probably one of the more complicated and time-consuming IOTs around. It takes perhaps 5-30 minutes to put your orders for the turn together, depending on how many things are going on for your country at the time, and how detailed you want to be in your orders and roleplaying. Diplomatic discussions take a bit more of your time.

The game start in 1815. You all start at roughly real life 1800s tech; by this time you’re starting to see factories and early railroads appearing. Armies fight with late Napoleonic weapons. You are starting to see early steamships but wooden sailing ships, including ships of the line and fast ocean-going “clippers”, still dominate the waves. It is an exciting time when new ideas and ideologies are rising to challenge the status quo.

You can leave the game at anytime; I’m not going to stop you, though please, only join this game if you think you can stay active. You can rejoin, unless I kicked you out. Countries of people who quit will be NPCed or disbanded. I may also disband nations of players who become inactive.


The Map

Kingdom of Bosnia​

Jedan Narod, Jedan Kralj, Jedno Carstvo​

Government: Absolute Monarchy
Capital: Bobovac (Bosnia)
Leader: King Nedim I Kotromanić
Factions:

• Nationalist (majority) Policies: Greater Bosnia, State run factories, Secularism
• Democrats (mediocre) Policies: Parliamentary Monarchy, Social Reform, Secularism
• Minorities (small, different types) Policies: Serbian Independence, Croat Autonomy, Greeks are not Slavs

Description: By the 1800's unrest had gathered in Serbia and other Ottoman provinces, the first Serbian revolt destroyed and with the monarchists fleeing a young Bosnian formed a rebel army in Serbia, Bosnia and Greece to overthrow the Ottomans old rule in favor of a modernized Kingdom of Bosnia. The rebels managed to defeat the Ottoman army at the battle of Takovo. The Ottomans withdrew from the balkans and The Royal Army of Bosnia took Belgrade and Salonika and declared a new Bosnian state, now seeking to expand all the way into Greece but mostly his homeland Bosnia and then onto Croatia to spread the Reich . The Kingdom is usually called the Treće Carstvo (Third Empire) because its the third unification of Bosnia, the first under Ban Kulin, second under King Tvrtko I and the third under King Nedim I.
Moto: One people, One King, One Empire



His Imperial Majesty the King:



Anthem:

Link to video.

Just in case it wasn't clear, you can claim up to three starting provinces; one of which is your capital.

Color: Colour you have given me is fine
Capital: Anatolia
Provinces: Asia Minor, Ararat
Description: For years it had worked, all those different nationalities under one banner. But ever since the Berber-Italian revolution in 1570 the differences had started to show. Only with smart, and sometimes ruthless, politics had the Sultans managed to keep their remaining empire.
However after the French Revolution no skillfull politics or show of arms could keep it together. The ideas of of the revolution were well received by the peoples who hadn’t governed themselves for so long. All through the empire small revolts arose that were easily quelled.
In 1800 one such revolt arose in Serbia. A group of rebels, that wanted an independent kingdom, took up arms against the Ottoman Empire. The initial rebellion was, like the other, easily dealt with. However the second rebellion that came from this would mean the desintegration of the empire. For two years the Ottoman forces fought against the rebels. More and more troups were deployed in the area to fight the rebellion. These two years of heavy fighting, in which the Ottoman forces were constant on the defensive, ended on a single battlefield. In the Battle of Takovo the army, that was supposed to pacify the rebels, ended up being destroyed.
When Sultan Selim III learned of the crushing defeat he decided to move his capital to a more central location in Anatolia. When all was prepared for him to relocate his court he travelled to Cappadocia. He would never arive.
{summery, will be turned into a story later}
- Selim III is killed during his journey by the Nobility
- Nobility create the Sublime State of Turkey. Three Nobles are elected from their mids to rule as kings.
- The military junta that was created in Istanbul after Selim III left refused to swear fealty to the new government en declared independence.
- Because the attention of the Ottomans was focused on the Balkan two more groups declared their independence, Israel and Hedjaz.
In other provinces petty kings declared their own independence.
Current national goal: Reclaim Istanbul and Cyprus
Factions:
Nobility
Ruling faction, overthrew the House of Osman and created their own state.
Ottomans
Want to restore the Sublime Ottoman Empire with House of Osman on the throne
Janissary
While still influential their importance to the military is diminishing due to modernization. The lost battle of Tavoko hasn't been good for their reputation either.

*Sublime State of the Turks.

mayor said:

Will there be a map with provinces names like its predecessors?

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I included one in the OP.

Nation name: Provincas Unidas de Centroamérica / UPCA
Flag:
Color: Green
Capital: Nicaragua
Other Provinces: Costa Rica, Honduras
Description: The United Provinces of Central America was born on 1811, when it declare it's independence from Spain, following Mexico. The Army of Liberty with it's leader Juan Diego who rules the country during the 3 and a half years of war. The UPCA originally included Costa Rica and El Salvador as well, but during the war they broke away, and the Army could not keep them in and fight Spain at the same time.
Factions:

• The National Government currently ruled by the Party of Liberty: When the UPCA declared it's independence from Spain in 1811, it was the Liberty Army, or the Army of Liberty that did the fighting, and ruled over the land for the war. After winning the war in 1814, the National Government was set up, based upon the American political system. The leaders of the Army of Liberty founded the Party of Liberty and elected the country's first president. The Party of Liberty supports the abolishment of slavery in the county, but various other parties in the Senate have rejected it. Overall, they are the most socially liberal party in the government, but they have also made various groups in the country mad. Because of this, many people in the country do not support the government, and they actually only have control of some of the land, much of the country is lawless, or run by other factions.
  
• The Blue Band Army: Named after the sky-blue bands the members were around their arms, the Blue Band was formed by defectors of the military shortly after the first election. The army began as a movement to overthrow the unpopular government, but now serves a peace-keeping force from the raiders and bandits in the northern part of the UPCA. They want to reverse some of the more unpopular laws issued by the government, and they have the support of most of the people, but they are prone to in-fighting amongst themselves, and thus rarely pose a threat to the government.
  
• The Iron Will: The Iron Will is the most extremist, atleast in the eyes of the UPCA, faction of the major three. Their major goals are the disestablishment of the republic, in favour of a new monarchy to rule the land, a national church that will be integrated into the government, and the continuing of slavery in the land. Of the big three, they are the ones to have the least support of the population, though wealthy landowners and the clergy support them. It was formed by the man known as Agustín de Iturbide . Their rule primarily consists of the south Pacific coast, but at times they have managed to get more than that.

The Empire of Vijayanagara​

Color: The color of the night sky (a nice dark black-blue)

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Capital: Vijayanagar (City of Victory), (in Hyderabad map province)
Governances: Rajya of Hyderabad, Rajya of Andhra (all in map province Hyderabad), Rajya of Travanacore, Rajya of Bijapur, Rajya of Mysore (all in map province Mysore), Rajya of Goa, Rajya of Pune, Rajya of Bombay (all in map province Bombay)
Leader: Emperor Jairaj Anand II Despande (1776-1815); The Despande dynasty has been in power since 1646.

History: The turning point (from OTL) in Vijayanagra's history is their turning back of the Bahmani Sultanate of the Deccan in 1532. From this point onwards, the Empire capitalized on the Sultanate's collapse to expand northwards, into Maharashtra. The pinnacle of Imperial expansion and power was reached in 1647, shortly after the crowning of Harihara III, the first Despande emperor, when the Imperial Army captured Goa from the Portuguese with minimal casualties. The Despandes mainly focused on internal affairs, starting India's first wave of industrialization in the 1770s especially after Jairaj Anand II was crowned in 1776.

The Empire experienced rapid social change and turmoil between the years 1750 and 1800, with the introduction of Enlightenment ideas from Europe revolutionized society. Jairaj Anand II was a forward-thinking believer in French Enlightenment ideas. A new school of thought emerged, combining traditional Indian thinking with the new ideas. This school advocated the presence of a benevolent king who loved and cared for his people, allowing them to make their own decisions and allowing great personal freedom. The caste system had fallen into disregard in many parts of the Empire as early as the late 17th century, and it was finally abolished. The Imperial Articles of Governance of 1790 was the final card that ensured liberal reforms.

Now as India enters a new age, a bright future awaits, especially as trade with Port Hadley in the southeast and on Lanka blossoms and the Empire opens itself to the world.

Factions: Although the caste system, long obsolete even by 1750, was finally officially abolished in 1794, the divisions still remain; the three major factions are three of the four varnas, (the fourth being the low-caste Shudras, now mostly laborers, sharecropping farm workers, poor independent or subsidence farmers, and urban workers. In 1815, the Shudras have little to no influence) Each "faction" is traditionally represented by a group of elders, although with societal change this is now becoming simply the most qualified and most respected members of a group.
-The Brahmins: The priest-intellectual caste, these are now the learned and "enlightened" people. The more liberal elements brought about the rapid social reform of the late 18th century, especially due to their presence in the Despande court. In 1815, most Brahmins in positions of influence are the liberal type, who advocate social reform and a push towards a more democratic and enlightened society. Economically, they favor protectionism and interventionist, even state capitalist, policy.
-The Kshatriyas: The warrior-ruling caste, these are now the more militant, even jingoist to a point. The Despande ruling house, understandably, has its roots here. Most of the Imperial Army officer corps are also represented here. They are somewhat conservative and (pan-)nationalist, favoring militarist policy and with the ultimate goal of uniting the Indian subcontinent under one banner.
-The Vaishyas: The merchant-farmer caste, some developed into rich merchant families even in the 17th and 18th centuries. Now, they represent the richer farmers (the ones who have sharecropping client farmers) and urban industrial capitalists and entrepreneurs. They are slighly socially conservative, but not significantly. However, they are heavily in support of free trade and laissez-faire economic policies.

Elections: Governors are elected by the people of a Rajya every 4 years. The Emperor title is hereditary and its holder is not elected unless there is no suitable inheritor, in which case the governors convene to elect a new dynasty to power. Below the rajya level, each administrative unit has its own system. Ministers and justices are handpicked, and there is near-universal use of civil service testing for lower positions.
Currency: The Rupee. Minted in Vijayanagar, Goa, Mysore, and Cochin as of 1815.
Measuring: The French metric system was officially adopted in 1795-1796. Older systems are still in use but are fading from existence.
Major products: Sorghum, spices, fruits and vegetables, rice, millet, fish, textiles, dairy, gems, iron, other metals and metal ores, fossil fuels
Current policies:
-"Untouchable" caste abolished (1783)
-Public discrimination based on caste abolished (1794)
-No industrialization is allowed in the capital city, in order to preserve its antique look and high living standard (1798)

UNDER CONSTRUCTION​

Nation name: Teutonic Republic(Teutonic Republic of Prussia)
Flag:
Color: Dark grey
Capital: Berlin(In the Brandenburg-region province, but you probably already knew that.)
Description: The Teutonic Republic, like the name implies, finds its roots in the Teutonic Order. However, the Order as a state was usurped into Brandenburg after degenerating into the Duchy of Prussia. The Brandenburg-Prussian crown eventually claimed the title "King of Prussia". After many wars won and lost, Prussia became a major power. After Napoleon's defeat, Prussia was on its way to leading the German states in the Northern German Confederacy. However, this was shattered by Catholic resurgence in Prussia, reforming the Teutonic Order.

The Order grew in strength quickly, despite the Prussian thrown and lands being dominately Protestant for years. The Order eventually gained influence over much of the aristocracy. With monetary richness and widespread public support, the Order organized a nation-wide revolt. Cities across Prussia were occupied; soon enough even some of the Prussian military joined the Teuton rebellion.

Berlin was captured soon enough, and with it the entire Monarchic house. Teutonic Order leadership expelled the Prussian monarchy and abolished the monarchic system altogether. In its place, a democratically-elected senate was installed and a new constitution written. In the chaos the inheritors of Prussia lost its chance to lead the Northern German Confederacy; the divided German states will have to stay divided for now.

Factions:
1)Teutonic Order-The dominate political group and largest religious organization of the Teutonic Republic, and the most popular faction in the present. The Order is directly responsible for the formation of the Republic and created the constitution and all present government bills and documents. This faction strives to achieve national unity of the Germanic peoples and believes in the power of industrial might.
2)Imperialist Party-This political party wishes to see the Republic become a globe-spanning empire. While they see why solidifying the claim on the home front, they wish priority shifted more towards gaining the fruit of foreign lands far and wide. This faction also advocates military expansion.
3)Monarchic Party-This faction has a simple goal: re-establishing the Prussian monarchy. There are two main sub-factions under the "Monarchic" tag. The dominant and most-widespread one wishes simply for a powerless figurehead for the nation making the Republic a Constitutional Monarchy. The lesser but quickly growing faction wishes for the complete re-establishment of the absolute monarchy.

taillesskangaru said:

I included one in the OP.

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yeah I saw it and already edited the question out. Unfortunately a tad to late

Stats edited now I have 3 provinces.

I have got a question (and not a idiotic one this time ):
The islands between Greece and Anatolia + Crete, do they belong to a particular province or are they seperate provinces and up for grabs?

Taking the islands of Japan. Will fill in the rest later today when not in class.

mayor said:

I have got a question (and not a idiotic one this time ):
The islands between Greece and Anatolia + Crete, do they belong to a particular province or are they seperate provinces and up for grabs?

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Ah, um... hmmm... I'll say they're part of Greece.

Color: Confederate light gray
Capital: Richmond, Virginia
Claims: Dixie and Louisiana
Description: The Confederate States of America, funded by plantation owners and led by the militarist Saxon Hale of the Knights of the Golden Circle seceded from the United States of America in 1803. After a four-year long war, the Confederate States emerged victorious. This is the eighth year, second term, of Saxon's rule.

Factions: Knights of the Golden Circle (Pro-slavery. Desires a pan-American/Caribbean alliance in support of slavery). The Knights formed in the late-1700s is largely made up of influential plantation owners. Saxon Hale, General of the Army of the South during the American Civil War, is also a plantation owner.

Democrats (Also pro-slavery but without the strong want for a pan-American/Caribbean alliance)

Whigs (A slowly growing party calling for emancipation of slaves. Small)

Will expand on more later.

Government: Monarchy
Capital: Hanseong (Yellow dot on map)
Currency: Mun
Description: During the late 18th century, King Jeongjo started what is considered to be a new renaissance for the Joseon dynasty. By favoring no one faction over another, Jeongjo managed to successfully gain control of his nations politics, enabling him to enact the reforms he desired. Jeongjo opened up new government positions to to those of lower social status, improved Korea's political and cultural stance, and greatly advanced scientific discovery in his kingdom. He also established the Kyujanggak royal library, which would becme a great center of learning.

In the year 1800 ad, King Jeongjo was succeeded by his son Seung. It was shortly after is coronation that the outside world suddenly began to change. The once mighty Qing Empire had fallen pray to both outside invasions and internal rebellions. Its hold on the Korean Peninsula was gone, as the empire solely unraveled. It was now clear that immediate action was needed to secure Korea's place in this power vacuum. Over the next fifteen years, Seung worked to greatly expand the power of the monarchy, creating a stronger military, and put and end to the factional violence that had long since gripped the Joseon dynasty. In addition, King Seung has slowly begun to bring the Hermit Kingdom out of its shell, much to the dismay of certain faction who believe this will invite subversive elements to Korea, such as Christianity.
Leader: King Seung
Factions:
-Seron: Faction supportive of the Silhak social reform movement. The Seron faction supports reforming the rigid Confucian caste system to allow for greater social mobility, taking realistic approaches to social problems with consideration of the people's welfare, encouragement of scientific study and technological exchange with other nations, promotion of human equality, and promoting Korea's own national identity. The Seron are the strongest political faction, despite their radical beliefs. Though they do not have official support from the king, many Seron scholars serve in the government.
-Norin: Faction supportive of the traditional order. The Senim faction supports the rigid social structure of Neo-Confucianism, strong isolationist policies, more power to the nobility over the peasantry, and stronger restriction on political freedoms. They also oppose industrialization, modernization, and anything that would threaten the traditional social order. While still a somewhat powerful faction, their influence overn the king and his court has been greatly lessened in the past decades.
-Siran: Faction supportive of a decentralized government. The Siran support greater local autonomy for villages and towns, strong isolationist policies, the abolition of the Confucian caste system, and the weakening of the power of the monarch. This group holds very little influence, and is in fact considered an illegal faction.

Claims:

I would like to call all people who play a nation in the former Ottoman Empire to contact each other to share ideas on how the Empire desintegrated (which it obviously did). I've got some ideas on it but it would look poorly if we all have different reasons for the desintegration.

If people already created a backstory please share it so I can work this into my own story

The United States of Azadistan


Government: Federal Republic
Color: 149/165/175
Capital: Yukon (Drrhatabad [OTL Victoria])
Leader: Parama Senapati (Supreme Leader) Jayaraj Selvamani
Religion: Hindu (63%), Muslim (25%), Adivasi Faiths (Catch-all term for any First Nation spiritualities) (8%), Other (4%) (Note: this data does not take into account syncretism between the various faiths)
Currency: Adazistani Rupee
Main Industries: Forestry, Mining, Fishing, etc.
Factions: Two major factors currently hold the most sway in Azadistan:
-Dharmists: These nationalists believe it is the sacred duty (Dharma) of Azadistan to spread Freedom and Democracy across the continent; some even advocate retaking India from the monarchists
-Internalists: These people believe that Azadistan should focus on building up the nation's infrastructure first before expanding outwards.
Description: In 1603, Akbar the Great sent a fleet around the world in order to learn about all the marvels the world had to offer. However, this expedition soon was cut short when the main fleet was shipwrecked off the coast on Vancouver Island. Despite the rainy weather and raids from the Haida, the Mughals managed to build a fort, and by 1610 they managed to make contact with India, and a colony was established (which named Drrhatabad, or the Place of Fortitude). The Indians had little interest in a cold, rainy, mountainous wasteland at the far side of the world at first, with only some eccentric colonists and fur traders coming into the colony. However, in 1650, Indian explorers discovered gold in the mountains of Paharistan (British Columbia), and many settlers began to rush to the mountains in order to stake a living there, and the Mughal colonies in North America grew. Under the rule of Aurangzeb, the Indians expanded their influence in the new world even more, even fighting wars against the Russians, British and Spanish for land.

At this point, though, Mughals had becomed overstretched, and this combined with his intolerance of other faiths besides Islam pushed the colonists to the breaking point: in 1710, the colonial governors of the Mughal colonies declared independence from the Empire, and subsequently ruled their countries as independent kings. As time went on though, the Nawabs became increasingly corrupt and self-centred, becoming nothing more than petty tyrants who enslaved (in many cases literally) entire populations for their own benefit. In 1768, a protest over the price of salmon in Paharistan eventually boiled into fullblown revolution under the guidance of General Rajvir Singh. In 1769, the rebellion spread to the neighbouring principalities of New Punjab (Oregon) and Kenai (Alaska), and the newly-free citizens of New Punjab, Kenai, and Paharistan united to form the nation of Azadistan, which means "Land of the Free".

Claims:

Nation name: Tibetan Empire
Flag: Red with crossed golden swords
Color: Crimson
Capital: Tibet, also claiming Sinkiang and Shansi
Description: Absolute monarchy, although the provinces can choose its governor in whatever way it wishes, though the Emperor can interfere with that. The economy is capitalist, but the government reserves the right to take control of an industry if require to bring it out of collapse. The citizens have freedom of religion, and are mostly happy with the current government.
Leader: Emperor Epic I
Factions:
Militariats: They believe that the military is the way to glory and that more funds should be put into it. Most of the time, they are neutral with the other two factions.
Imperials: This faction believes that the Emperor should be the final matter in the Empire, and appoint governors himself. Although it sometimes sides with the Militariats, they disagree often because they believe that the economy is more important than the military.
Republicans: For them, victory will only be achieved if power is given to the people. Their goal is to steadily reduce the Emperor's power, and give the citizens more rights. Sworn enemies of the Imperials, neutral/sometimes friendly with the Militariats.

Cumhuriyet ʿAliyye-yi Venedicıya​

First settled in 1522, The Sublime Republic Of Venediciya is a relatively new nation that sits along the Caribbean sea in South America. Formally a colony of the Ottoman empire independence was declared as the empire disintegrated. The nation covers 3 former Ottoman eyelets which were integrated when the empire could no longer support them. It's capital, New Karaman (Real Life Cumana) is a large and important port in the area, being used to support the Turkish navies in the Atlantic.
The dominant export of the area is coffee which is harvested by slaves captured from Africa and Europe by the Ottomans. Sunni Islam is the dominant religion with only small packets of Christians and Shi'a practitioners. There is still native peoples, however they mostly live in the dense jungles on the southern edges of the nation.

State Flag:
For use by government officials.

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War Flag:
Hoisted during battles

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Naval Flag:
Hoisted by Venedician war ships

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Land controlled as of 1815​

Pre-Ottoman period
It is not known how many people lived in Venediciya before the Ottoman Conquest; it may have been around a million people. The number was much reduced after the Conquest, mainly through the spread of new diseases. There were two main north-south axes of pre-Columbian population, producing maize in the west and manioc in the east. In the 16th century when Ottoman colonization began in Venediciyian territory, the population of several indigenous peoples such as the Mariches (descendants of the Caribes) declined. Historians have proposed many reasons for this decline, including exposure to European diseases and the systematic elimination of indigenous tribes for control of resources valued. Native caciques (leaders) such as Guaicaipuro (c. 1530–1568) and Tamanaco (died 1573) attempted to resist Ottoman incursions, but the newcomers ultimately subdued them.

Ottoman rule
In 1499 the Venediciyian in the region was first discovered by Piri Reis in his first visit to the region landing on an island off the coast he noticed the large amount of pearls which the natives were harvesting and when he returns are suggested settling the lands and to gather the riches. On visiting on the mainland and he was reminded of the city of Venice due to the vast amount of rivers and so named the nation after it. The first settlement was created in 1522 by a mixture of adventure seeking men and missionaries looking to spread Islam to the natives. To begin with these settlements were unsuccessful suffering from constant attacks from natives and struggling to cultivate anything. The Ottomans became more focused in their holdings in Yeni Adana and Venediciya was neglected for the next century.
With the introduction of slavery and crops such as coffee and sugar being planted in the area it began to become an important region for the Ottomans and in 1640 the region as well as the two neighbouring Ottoman colonies became their own eyelets. It continued to grow in power and wealth after this with almost the monopoly on the sale of cocoa beans. By 1720 it ports had been opened to ships of any nationality and it was becoming an intellectual powerhouse with its own university. Throughout the 1700 it became more a more independent with its own law courts and Parliament.


There are 3 major parties within the Venedician government:
Devamı Modernizasyon:(The Party for Continued Modernization) A left leaning party, after seeing the collapse of the ottoman empire they make it there goal never to become "the old man of South American". They support the abolition of slavery, a basic welfare system and strong ties with nations in the area.

Milli Gurur:(The National Pride party) Rather than looking to there former masters for an identity this party believes in making Venedicya the greatest nation ever. They intend to achieve this through any way possible, be it by controlling huge swathes of land with a mighty army, making Venedicya the most scientifically advance nation or even an unrivalled power in cultural buildings, art and music.


Türk Topluluğu:(The Turkish Commonwealth party) This party believes in the superiority of the Turkish people among all other people. The support further segregation in the state and the removal of the rights of Non-Turkic people. They also support building relations with all formerly Ottoman and Turkic nations.

MoreEpicThanYou said:

Nation name: Epic Empire
Flag: Red with crossed golden swords
Color: Crimson
Capital: Dixie, also claiming Virginia and Florida
Description: Absolute monarchy, although the provinces can choose its governor in whatever way it wishes, though the Emperor can interfere with that. The economy is capitalist, but the government reserves the right to take control of an industry if require to bring it out of collapse. The citizens have freedom of religion, and are mostly happy with the current government.
Leader: Emperor Epic I
Factions:
Militariats: They believe that the military is the way to glory and that more funds should be put into it. Most of the time, they are neutral with the other two factions.
Imperials: This faction believes that the Emperor should be the final matter in the Empire, and appoint governors himself. Although it sometimes sides with the Militariats, they disagree often because they believe that the economy is more important than the military.
Republicans: For them, victory will only be achieved if power is given to the people. Their goal is to steadily reduce the Emperor's power, and give the citizens more rights. Sworn enemies of the Imperials, neutral/sometimes friendly with the Militariats.

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Two of those claims overlap mine.

And my nation doesn't have "epic" in it, making it a real nation.