Victim of Perceived Thug Still Sitting in Jail

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When we last left our hero, we were debating his unemotional polygraph performance.

Why not start out this one with his editing skills:


Zimmerman changes details, makes claims inconsistent with other evidence


6:22 p.m. EST, June 27, 2012|
By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel


George Zimmerman talked to Sanford police a half-dozen times, going over what happened the night he killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. In the retelling, parts of his story changed. His account also does not line up with other evidence.

Here are some of the most prominent inconsistencies:

Where the confrontation happened

What Trayvon said

Dispatcher asked him to find Trayvon

Did he follow Trayvon?

Other inconsistencies
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-27/news/os-george-zimmerman-inconsistencies-20120626_1_shooting-dispatcher-police
 
It sounds like Zimmerman's "bad memory" is a result of finally realizing his statements are so inconsistent with the facts. I've never seen street names or even addresses posted in the backyard of condos before. He could have easily found either by staying on the road where he already was.

And speaking of "unemotional", one of the witnesses characterized him as being extremely so after killing a teenager.
 
Interesting that Zimmerman's lawyer declined to put him on the stand at the latest bail hearing. I caught the last hour or so of it . . . his lawyer seemed a bit disorganized and is maybe not as good as I first thought.
 
Interesting that Zimmerman's lawyer declined to put him on the stand at the latest bail hearing. I caught the last hour or so of it . . . his lawyer seemed a bit disorganized and is maybe not as good as I first thought.

Well when your client keeps putting on record a shifting story, one must not get much sleep trying to keep up. I think the lawer wants him out of jail, just to keep him locked up where no one can talk to him.
 
I think this is by far the most interesting trial since OJ Simpson.
 
Speak for yourself. Many people watched the trial, most people talked about it incessantly, and it was frequently even discussed years afterwards. It could have even singlehandedly changed the criminal justice system in this country, all because one black man was acquitted.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/oj/themes/impact.html

The one thing that's amazing about the Simpson case ... [is that] no one's mind has changed in a decade. The whites who thought he was guilty haven't budged an inch, and the blacks who thought he was not guilty haven't budged an inch. They both saw the same program played out on American television, and they both had very different views about it.

And in both cases, their views were influenced by their experiences with race and their experience with the criminal justice system. Whites assume that if there were enough accusations, Simpson would be convicted. Blacks assume that here's another black man drawn into the criminal justice system. But this time he had Johnnie Cochran; this time he had resources; this time he had experts like [criminalist] Dr. Henry Lee and [forensic pathologist] Michael Baden. This time he was somebody who could fight back to a system that is frequently unfair, and to make it show its many flaws. …

Was it a watershed case? If so, why?

This case was a watershed case in an important respect: It placed the issue of race and justice squarely before the American public, and we had to confront the ugly underbelly of the criminal justice system.

It was a watershed case for African Americans because it helped them celebrate the fact that when there's a doubt in the system, people will be found not guilty. It was a watershed case for whites because it led to remarkably short-sighted and dangerous suggestions about revamping the criminal justice system because one man was found not guilty; that we would give up hundreds of years of justice and a jury system that worked, hundreds of years of a jury system [that] became more representative because people of color and women could finally serve in it -- to give up all the benefits of a system because one man was found not guilty.

And thank God that, ultimately, justice prevailed. The system remains intact, and the reactions that followed the verdict didn't allow us to make a terrible mistake to try to adjust a system because one person was able to get the benefit of a doubt in a major criminal case. …
 
It's like the jersey shore. But with a real rich celeb.
 
Here is a DA interview with his girlfriend.


Link to video.

There's also an interview with Zimmerman being grilled by 3 detectives while they play back the police call from the same source - SyndicatedNews.NET (Youtube channel "syndicatednews"). But that video contains references to the profanity that Zimmerman used during that call which are not bleeped out, so I don't think I should post it given the forum rules.

Zimmerman couldn't even remember how fast Martin was running and claimed he wasn't following Martin, even after admitting to the dispatcher he was doing just that. In the interview, Martin claimed he was just walking in the same direction, and the female detective says "that's following". One of the detectives times how long it was from the time that Zimmerman stated he stopped not following him and turned around to go back to his truck, and asks Zimmerman how he could be anywhere near where the incident occurred. Zimmerman claimed it was because he didn't have a flashlight and there was lightning.

The girlfriend in the interview above stated that Martin was standing in the mailbox kiosk out of the rain talking to her when Zimmerman first approached him in in truck. That he left the kiosk because Zimmerman was acting so suspiciously. This directly contradicts Zimmerman's account that he saw Martin "looking into the houses", and that "he wasn't walking quickly to get out of the rain".

No wonder the cops think his story is so full of holes. I don't think there is any way Zimmerman can be put on the witness stand. He just doesn't come across as having any credibility at all, and there are far too many inconsistencies.
 
Holy Cow! The GF was there?
 
No, the GF was miles away talking to Martin via phone. There is not much to her testimony other than Martin was trying to avoid Zimmerman and get to his Dad's house. It was raining and that is why Martin was "loitering" under a protective overhang containing mailboxes.

Ok, the bail is set at $1,000,000.
 
So standing out of the rain while talking to his girlfriend before returning to the condo where he was staying is now "loitering"? And it does "not much" but completely contradict many of Zimmerman's statements of what occurred.

Zimmerman is going to need a lot more "law and order" vigilante wannabe cop supporters to step forward if he is going to continue to get the room service he has so far demanded:

Trayvon Martin Case: George Zimmerman bond set at $1 million

According to his bond order, Zimmerman isn't allowed to leave Seminole County without prior authorization from the court. He also has to check in with authorities every 48 hours and he can't enter Orlando Sanford International Airport property.

In addition, the judge ordered that Zimmerman may not open a bank account and has a daily curfew from 6 p.m. until 6 a.m., the station reports. Zimmerman may not apply for a passport, drink any alcohol, and must pay for his own electric monitoring device, according to the order.
 
So standing out of the rain while talking to his girlfriend before returning to the condo where he was staying is now "loitering"? And it does "not much" but completely contradict many of Zimmerman's statements of what occurred.

Zimmerman is going to need a lot more "law and order" vigilante wannabe cop supporters to step forward if he is going to continue to get the room service he has so far demanded:

Trayvon Martin Case: George Zimmerman bond set at $1 million

No, it is called staying dry.
 
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