fdrpi
Prince
Each of the 21 gods had their own religion, right? They just weren't added in for obvious gameplay reasons.
What were they, if they were ever thought of?
What were they, if they were ever thought of?
More religions than the seven.
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TC01
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(This is a little old, but as no one posted an answer, I may as well).
The short answer is: yes. The long answer is: not quite.
There are far more than merely 21 Erebusian religions, and not all of the gods have what you might consider an actual religion. The Octopus Overlords, for instance, aren't really tied to one of the 21 (arguably they represent Danalin, but they could also be tied to Mammon, Hastur, Hemah, or something completely different).
Likewise, Arawn isn't worshiped (though I bet there probably is some extremely minor cult that does somewhere), but revered, by the Sidar. So technically he has no organized religion. And I don't think Tali has any organized religions either, though he is of course worshiped.
We know some things about some of the other religions. There's the White Hand, obviously, for Mulcarn, the Stewards of Inequity for Mammon. There's a cult that worships Ceridwen, but I can't recall their name at the moment (EDIT: the Emyrs, that's their name). There may be one or two others that Kael's actually talked about, but I don't remember them.
The short answer is: yes. The long answer is: not quite.
There are far more than merely 21 Erebusian religions, and not all of the gods have what you might consider an actual religion. The Octopus Overlords, for instance, aren't really tied to one of the 21 (arguably they represent Danalin, but they could also be tied to Mammon, Hastur, Hemah, or something completely different).
Likewise, Arawn isn't worshiped (though I bet there probably is some extremely minor cult that does somewhere), but revered, by the Sidar. So technically he has no organized religion. And I don't think Tali has any organized religions either, though he is of course worshiped.
We know some things about some of the other religions. There's the White Hand, obviously, for Mulcarn, the Stewards of Inequity for Mammon. There's a cult that worships Ceridwen, but I can't recall their name at the moment (EDIT: the Emyrs, that's their name). There may be one or two others that Kael's actually talked about, but I don't remember them.
thomas.berubeg
Wandering the World
There's the Blossoms of mercy, associated with Sirona, and the Occis, devoted to Aeron. The unblemished are associated with Succeleus
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
Aeron is worshiped by The Occis, but this is more of a secret society of sociopathic assassins than a traditional religion. He is also rather big in the Ashen Veil, as most of the demons sent back to Erebus to make deals with mortals do so as part of their training in his vault.
Agares is revered by all followers of the Ashen Veil, although few would dare pray to him directly. Most prefer to deal with lesser demons.
Amathaon has no organized religion. He does have worshipers, but he tends to ignore their prayers and instead give out unmerited blessings seemingly at random. Those who wish to honor Amathaon do so by donating to artists and inventors.
Arawn does not have an organized religion. He did have temples and priests during the age of Magic though. People would throw offerings into empty graves as they prayed to him. This religion lost popularity when it became clear that the god of death was utterly indifferent to their prayers. The Sidar still revere Arawn, but few would still try to worship or pray to him like they used to do.
Bhall's religion was the most popular faith in Erebus before she fell, but we were never told its name. The orcs of the Clan of Embers still worship her around the fire of the crater where her great temple once stood. For the most part though, she has just been subsumed into the pandemonium worshiped by the Ashen Veil. Her archangel Brigit is still revered by The Order.
Camulos has no organized religion, but he does have a few minor cults that worship him. For the most part though his worshipers are lone psychopaths. His best known worshiper is Duin Halfmorn, who was given lycanthropy as an answer to a prayer for more followers.
Ceridwen is revered in the Ashen Veil, and also has her own organized religion called The Emrys.
Cernunnos is honored by the Fellowship of the Leaves, but the religion is devoted to nature itself far more than to the god who presides over it. Sucellus, Amathaon, Arawn, Tali (who presides over Spring), and even Kilmorph (who presides over Autumn) are also revered here.
Dagda does not have an organized religion, and I can't seem to think of any signs that anyone worships him at all. The fact that his archangel is so strongly opposed to the concept of worship may be part of this. It is also a bit contradictory to be fanatically in favor of moderation.
Danalin had an organized religion before we went to sleep. He mostly care about his beloved Aifons, but would answer human prayers too. During the Age of Magic evil mages often worshiped him in order to help protect themselves from Bhall, even though Danalin himself was in no way evil. Whereas Mulcarn was typically a jealous god who did not want the Illians to revere anyone else, he seems to have tolerated Danalin worship. There was a temple of Danalin still open in the Illian Village of Brigdarrow when Auric Ulvin was growing up there. Its priest was a kindly but very practical man, with a "god helps those who help themselves" type of attitude.
Esus is of course worshiped by the Council of Esus.
Junil is of course worshiped by The Order. Before the Age of Ice he did not have much of a religion, but he was revered by the the worshipers of Bhall and had a shrine within the temple complex of the city of Braduk. (The Bannor who made it through hell were those who sought refuge there. Donal Lugh was actually thought to have been killed, as was lying in state in Junil temple at the time. Capria's family were there to attend his funeral.)
Kilmorph the Earthmother is of course worshiped by the Runes of Kilmorph. She is also the goddess of the harvest, which makes her very popular in agricultural communities. The Fellowship of the Leaves reveres her as the goddess of Autumn.
Lugus is of course worshiped by The Empyrean. He had a different religion devoted to him in a previous age, but the Vampires exterminated it completely during the Age of Magic.
Mammon prefers that his worshipers believe that they serve only themselves. He is by far the most widely worshiped god in Erebus, but even within his organized religion only a very small minority of elites realize this. The Stewards of Inequity is a secret society resembling what conspiracy theories allege the Free Masons or the Illuminati to be. They are mostly concerned with controlling the economy to assure that wealth remains concentrated in the hand of those who did not work to earn it. Most members are influential politicians, lobbyists, tax collectors, bankers, or the leaders of businesses that benefit from mercantilism.
Mulcarn was worshiped by The White Hand, the priests of which were called the Frost Speakers. Auric Ulvin has tried to revive his faith, but it isn't really the same as it used to be.
Nantosuelta has no organized religion. She is revered by he Luchuirp, but not as much as Kilmorph.
Oghma has no organized religion, but the Saperes run schools and libraries in his honor.
Sirona's religion is mostly about providing charity to those in need. I don't think that any canon source has revealed a name for her religion. We do know that during the Age of Magic there was an order of nuns called the Sisterhood of Sirona, and that Einion Logos was a priest of Sirona before he founded the Order of the Elohim monks.
Sucellus is still greatly revered by the Fellowship of the Leaves. The Druids are his original Priesthood. The religion devoted to The Risen Sucellus is called the Unblemished in some sources, or the Untouched in others. They are best known for being the best healers in Erebus, sometimes great enough to revive the dead. Most of them have no supernatural powers and overt healing miracles are fairly rare, but their practice of combining the scientific medical knowledge of the Ordine Medicos (the Grigori Medics) with the power of prayer tends to be more effective than either would be alone.
Tali is worshiped by a group called the Foxmen, but they aren't really an organized religion. Tali doesn't really like anything organized. He is a free spirit, who prefers crazy sorts of fun. His worshipers instead build shrines in hard to reach places like the edges of very high cliffs, and go on pilgrimages that bare more resemblance to extreme sports. These daredevils also sometimes gather together to worship on the roofs of the inns where they stay on their journeys.
The Octopus Overlords are probably the creations of the dreams of Hemah, who in turn is the dream of Danalin. The Overlords are corrupted by what Hastur, Archangel of Mammon and Lord of Nightmares, is whispering into the sleeping Danalin's ears. Is has been claimed that the power of the Overlords is far greater than that of the gods (or at least that which the 21 are allowed to use after the Compact), but they have no common goals and oppose each other more than anything else.
The Cult of the Dragon is not one organized religion, but a large groups of very loosely affiliated cells that have rejected the gods and turned to worshiping their weapons. Different cults worship different dragons, whether beasts that are alive in Erebus or which they wish to summon back from the realm of myths where they are stored. Eurabatres the Gold Dragon has actual plans for the betterment of the world, but most of the dragons think nothing of men and want merely a chance to destroy.
The Luonnotar are a group that reject all false gods and worship The One. It is not clear how they learned of The One. None of the gods have revealed this information. Doing so may have been banned by The Compact. It might just have been a lucky guess, but the gods fear that it The One may have revealed himself to humans without telling them first. This would seem to signify that their creator is unhappy with them, that the world may soon end and that the gods will be judged severely. No god dares harm them, but their worshipers tend to persecute them for blasphemy. Cassiel gave them refuge in the Grigori lands, but he does not really like them either. He does not believe that the morally perfect being he believe The One to be would have any desire for worship. Most of the Grigori citizenry distrust the Luonnotar as much as any other religion.
Temeluchus is a false god fabricated by Laroth in the Age of Magic. It tended to be very popular in any towns he visited, but since the devotion to this god and all the miracles he was purported to have performed depended entirely on the future archmage's own power it did not spread much beyond that. Like the religion of Sirona this calls for empathy an altruism. Instead of focusing on helping those who are worse off though, this focused on harming oneself in order to better relate to them.
There are numerous other fictional deities like Temeluchus worshiped in Erebus, but they have not been named.
Agares is revered by all followers of the Ashen Veil, although few would dare pray to him directly. Most prefer to deal with lesser demons.
Amathaon has no organized religion. He does have worshipers, but he tends to ignore their prayers and instead give out unmerited blessings seemingly at random. Those who wish to honor Amathaon do so by donating to artists and inventors.
Arawn does not have an organized religion. He did have temples and priests during the age of Magic though. People would throw offerings into empty graves as they prayed to him. This religion lost popularity when it became clear that the god of death was utterly indifferent to their prayers. The Sidar still revere Arawn, but few would still try to worship or pray to him like they used to do.
Bhall's religion was the most popular faith in Erebus before she fell, but we were never told its name. The orcs of the Clan of Embers still worship her around the fire of the crater where her great temple once stood. For the most part though, she has just been subsumed into the pandemonium worshiped by the Ashen Veil. Her archangel Brigit is still revered by The Order.
Camulos has no organized religion, but he does have a few minor cults that worship him. For the most part though his worshipers are lone psychopaths. His best known worshiper is Duin Halfmorn, who was given lycanthropy as an answer to a prayer for more followers.
Ceridwen is revered in the Ashen Veil, and also has her own organized religion called The Emrys.
Cernunnos is honored by the Fellowship of the Leaves, but the religion is devoted to nature itself far more than to the god who presides over it. Sucellus, Amathaon, Arawn, Tali (who presides over Spring), and even Kilmorph (who presides over Autumn) are also revered here.
Dagda does not have an organized religion, and I can't seem to think of any signs that anyone worships him at all. The fact that his archangel is so strongly opposed to the concept of worship may be part of this. It is also a bit contradictory to be fanatically in favor of moderation.
Danalin had an organized religion before we went to sleep. He mostly care about his beloved Aifons, but would answer human prayers too. During the Age of Magic evil mages often worshiped him in order to help protect themselves from Bhall, even though Danalin himself was in no way evil. Whereas Mulcarn was typically a jealous god who did not want the Illians to revere anyone else, he seems to have tolerated Danalin worship. There was a temple of Danalin still open in the Illian Village of Brigdarrow when Auric Ulvin was growing up there. Its priest was a kindly but very practical man, with a "god helps those who help themselves" type of attitude.
Esus is of course worshiped by the Council of Esus.
Junil is of course worshiped by The Order. Before the Age of Ice he did not have much of a religion, but he was revered by the the worshipers of Bhall and had a shrine within the temple complex of the city of Braduk. (The Bannor who made it through hell were those who sought refuge there. Donal Lugh was actually thought to have been killed, as was lying in state in Junil temple at the time. Capria's family were there to attend his funeral.)
Kilmorph the Earthmother is of course worshiped by the Runes of Kilmorph. She is also the goddess of the harvest, which makes her very popular in agricultural communities. The Fellowship of the Leaves reveres her as the goddess of Autumn.
Lugus is of course worshiped by The Empyrean. He had a different religion devoted to him in a previous age, but the Vampires exterminated it completely during the Age of Magic.
Mammon prefers that his worshipers believe that they serve only themselves. He is by far the most widely worshiped god in Erebus, but even within his organized religion only a very small minority of elites realize this. The Stewards of Inequity is a secret society resembling what conspiracy theories allege the Free Masons or the Illuminati to be. They are mostly concerned with controlling the economy to assure that wealth remains concentrated in the hand of those who did not work to earn it. Most members are influential politicians, lobbyists, tax collectors, bankers, or the leaders of businesses that benefit from mercantilism.
Mulcarn was worshiped by The White Hand, the priests of which were called the Frost Speakers. Auric Ulvin has tried to revive his faith, but it isn't really the same as it used to be.
Nantosuelta has no organized religion. She is revered by he Luchuirp, but not as much as Kilmorph.
Oghma has no organized religion, but the Saperes run schools and libraries in his honor.
Sirona's religion is mostly about providing charity to those in need. I don't think that any canon source has revealed a name for her religion. We do know that during the Age of Magic there was an order of nuns called the Sisterhood of Sirona, and that Einion Logos was a priest of Sirona before he founded the Order of the Elohim monks.
Sucellus is still greatly revered by the Fellowship of the Leaves. The Druids are his original Priesthood. The religion devoted to The Risen Sucellus is called the Unblemished in some sources, or the Untouched in others. They are best known for being the best healers in Erebus, sometimes great enough to revive the dead. Most of them have no supernatural powers and overt healing miracles are fairly rare, but their practice of combining the scientific medical knowledge of the Ordine Medicos (the Grigori Medics) with the power of prayer tends to be more effective than either would be alone.
Tali is worshiped by a group called the Foxmen, but they aren't really an organized religion. Tali doesn't really like anything organized. He is a free spirit, who prefers crazy sorts of fun. His worshipers instead build shrines in hard to reach places like the edges of very high cliffs, and go on pilgrimages that bare more resemblance to extreme sports. These daredevils also sometimes gather together to worship on the roofs of the inns where they stay on their journeys.
The Octopus Overlords are probably the creations of the dreams of Hemah, who in turn is the dream of Danalin. The Overlords are corrupted by what Hastur, Archangel of Mammon and Lord of Nightmares, is whispering into the sleeping Danalin's ears. Is has been claimed that the power of the Overlords is far greater than that of the gods (or at least that which the 21 are allowed to use after the Compact), but they have no common goals and oppose each other more than anything else.
The Cult of the Dragon is not one organized religion, but a large groups of very loosely affiliated cells that have rejected the gods and turned to worshiping their weapons. Different cults worship different dragons, whether beasts that are alive in Erebus or which they wish to summon back from the realm of myths where they are stored. Eurabatres the Gold Dragon has actual plans for the betterment of the world, but most of the dragons think nothing of men and want merely a chance to destroy.
The Luonnotar are a group that reject all false gods and worship The One. It is not clear how they learned of The One. None of the gods have revealed this information. Doing so may have been banned by The Compact. It might just have been a lucky guess, but the gods fear that it The One may have revealed himself to humans without telling them first. This would seem to signify that their creator is unhappy with them, that the world may soon end and that the gods will be judged severely. No god dares harm them, but their worshipers tend to persecute them for blasphemy. Cassiel gave them refuge in the Grigori lands, but he does not really like them either. He does not believe that the morally perfect being he believe The One to be would have any desire for worship. Most of the Grigori citizenry distrust the Luonnotar as much as any other religion.
Temeluchus is a false god fabricated by Laroth in the Age of Magic. It tended to be very popular in any towns he visited, but since the devotion to this god and all the miracles he was purported to have performed depended entirely on the future archmage's own power it did not spread much beyond that. Like the religion of Sirona this calls for empathy an altruism. Instead of focusing on helping those who are worse off though, this focused on harming oneself in order to better relate to them.
There are numerous other fictional deities like Temeluchus worshiped in Erebus, but they have not been named.
TC01
Deity
Who (or perhaps, what?) are the Saperes, and what do they have to do with Oghma?
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
I don't think Kael ever made any reference to it outside of this post.
"Oghma- Angel of Knowledge (Metamagic). Oghma is revered by many who pursue knowledge, especially those that chronicle it. He doesn't have typical churches or religious services but there are many libraries and schools that revere him and a vast hierarchy of those that keep and share information similiar to the structures of other churches. A sapere is a respected professional in this hierarchy that would be comparable to priests of other religions."
"Oghma- Angel of Knowledge (Metamagic). Oghma is revered by many who pursue knowledge, especially those that chronicle it. He doesn't have typical churches or religious services but there are many libraries and schools that revere him and a vast hierarchy of those that keep and share information similiar to the structures of other churches. A sapere is a respected professional in this hierarchy that would be comparable to priests of other religions."
cypher132
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Magister, where do you get all this info? I've never even heard of the Foxmen. Or around half of what you posted.
It's also slightly comforting coming back here after several months to see that Magister is still posting several paragraph long tid bits of lore.
It's also slightly comforting coming back here after several months to see that Magister is still posting several paragraph long tid bits of lore.
fdrpi
Prince
I know right?
