Deity Challenge 2 - Byzantium, Continents

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Time for round 2! :)

Standard settings. Quick Combat on, everything else off.
Gods & Kings only, no other DLC.

I played for about 45 turns. There should be plenty here to work with. Definitely better than the first few maps I playtested. Good luck!

Spoiler :
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Ugh! I am confident that the better players will do well with this map, but I made a mess of it.

Spoiler :
I rushed to settle the silver to the east, which provoked an attack from Bismark. I made short work of his units, but he would not agree to reasonable peace terms even after Elizabeth opened a second front against him. He kept insisting on 1-3 of my cities. Meanwhile, Pacal backstabbed me, which caught me by surprise and cost me a city. I took it back, but I'm not sure that was even a good idea. Right now, I am losing in military, tech, and religion. Taking a break from that game and probably not going back to it.
 
BWS said:
Time for round 2! :)

Standard settings. Quick Combat on, everything else off.
Gods & Kings only, no other DLC.

I played for about 45 turns. There should be plenty here to work with. Definitely better than the first few maps I playtested. Good luck!
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Tbh I feel less confident about the starting location than with the 1st challenge. Probably no settling the capital near mountain and quite a few jungle tiles nearby. I suspect I won't go east with the settler, there'll be more jungle and maybe there won't be a mountain near the river.

Between the cow and the incense would be a good spot, then I could get Dromons early. There's also a 3food tile accessible if I settle to adjacent hill southwest and I could get a bit further from the jungles. Hopefully there'll be horses.
 
I'm barely managing on immortal but I'm gonna give this a try, and hopefully learn something! Will definitely settle on the hill to the SE and later try to expand against the coast.
 
I'll give it a try too, even though I'm mostly an Immortal player.
Hoping for more Incense and Wine nearby, and no Ethiopia or Celts as a neighbour, like you guys had in the Russia challenge :lol:
 
I settled on the hill next to the oasis and river. I figured that gave me the most options, depending on how the nearby terrain worked out. It also gives me the choice of Desert Folklore or Goddess of Festivals. No great OCC spot here, but it looks good for the Tradition quad.
 
BWS said:
I settled on the hill next to the oasis and river. I figured that gave me the most options, depending on how the nearby terrain worked out. It also gives me the choice of Desert Folklore or Goddess of Festivals. No great OCC spot here, but it looks good for the Tradition quad.
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Forgot Desert Folklore...it'll make that spot more appealing. I'll definitely give this map a try later. I haven't played Byzantium before but two early UU's would indicate early warmongering is a good way to go. Getting religion is hard on Deity but with Desert Folklore and enough workable desert tiles it should be obtainable.
 
Settle on (SW) hill is a no brainer, but moving the warr to NE to check what is there before setting could be useful.

I do not really like Byz, they have advantage on the religion, but no synergy at all to get one.
In deity, this could mean getting a religion only on turn 100 when every good thing is taken and your religion will not spread.
 
I thought it was Dido.

Byzantium deity is going to be hard, but we will see how it goes.
 
Seems like an easy map for deity from what I can see.
Though I doubt I'll be able to beat it.
Spoiler :
Went with Liberty since this starting location has a huge number of both luxuries and strategics, and I wanted to make sure I could get a good religion going. 3 religious CS made getting the pantheon very easy, and godess of the festivals gave me the third religion. Unfortunately missed out on Ceremonial Burial, which will really hurt here.

Made DoF with both Germany and the Maya, thinking that it would keep them from attacking me early on. Pacal didn't like me settling my 4th city on the wine west of him, I promised to not settle near him, and promtly broke my promise by placing my 6th city on the double silvers north of him.

He managed to get both Stonehenge and The Oracle in his capital. Since I had already pissed him off by breaking my promise, I decided I wanted to backstab him as well to get those wonders for myself. At this point I had over 1000 gold in my treasury because of all the luxuries, so I could well afford to buy two tactical Dromons in the tiny inland sea North of Palenque.

Taking the city was easy, though not as easy as I had hoped since he managed to build walls on the turn I attacked. After a turn or two, I got the expected double DoW from Elizabeth and Bismarck, I have a feeling I shouldn't try to anger the AI as much as I'm used to on Immortal. As Palenque fell, Pacal suggested a peace deal with him giving me Chichen Itza, it was in a decent location for a puppet, and had only 2 population so I accepted. Unfortunately it seems the city tile not being used -bug is still present on cities gotten in peace deals, so the city will starve itself permanently.

Defending from the double DoW isn't too hard, Elizabeth is too far away, and my CS ally Almaty is doing a great job killing all troops she tries to send my way. Bismarck is sending in a great number of units, but they are fairly easy to kill since the terrain is a brutal combination of hills, jungle, river and mountains.

I predict that I will be unable to catch the AI in tech (this is always my downfall in the Deity games I try), or Bismarck manages to get enough of a force to take down Varna.
 

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Very interesting map!

Spoiler :
England and Germany are jealous of Byzantium's achievement and decide to DoW. but they can't do any damage. The plan to attack Pacal is however delayed.

So many sources of generating faith.
So many options to choose beliefs: faith buy land units or buy monastary
and so many cash
 
I wasted a turn walking but settled on the hill turn 2.

Spoiler :

I found 2 religious cs first and managed 2nd pantheon t15. Saved it there. Will take festivals I guess.

Scout>Monument
Pottery>AH

 
Hpuk said:
Seems like an easy map for deity from what I can see.
Though I doubt I'll be able to beat it.
Spoiler :
Went with Liberty since this starting location has a huge number of both luxuries and strategics, and I wanted to make sure I could get a good religion going. 3 religious CS made getting the pantheon very easy, and godess of the festivals gave me the third religion. Unfortunately missed out on Ceremonial Burial, which will really hurt here.

Made DoF with both Germany and the Maya, thinking that it would keep them from attacking me early on. Pacal didn't like me settling my 4th city on the wine west of him, I promised to not settle near him, and promtly broke my promise by placing my 6th city on the double silvers north of him.

He managed to get both Stonehenge and The Oracle in his capital. Since I had already pissed him off by breaking my promise, I decided I wanted to backstab him as well to get those wonders for myself. At this point I had over 1000 gold in my treasury because of all the luxuries, so I could well afford to buy two tactical Dromons in the tiny inland sea North of Palenque.

Taking the city was easy, though not as easy as I had hoped since he managed to build walls on the turn I attacked. After a turn or two, I got the expected double DoW from Elizabeth and Bismarck, I have a feeling I shouldn't try to anger the AI as much as I'm used to on Immortal. As Palenque fell, Pacal suggested a peace deal with him giving me Chichen Itza, it was in a decent location for a puppet, and had only 2 population so I accepted. Unfortunately it seems the city tile not being used -bug is still present on cities gotten in peace deals, so the city will starve itself permanently.

Defending from the double DoW isn't too hard, Elizabeth is too far away, and my CS ally Almaty is doing a great job killing all troops she tries to send my way. Bismarck is sending in a great number of units, but they are fairly easy to kill since the terrain is a brutal combination of hills, jungle, river and mountains.

I predict that I will be unable to catch the AI in tech (this is always my downfall in the Deity games I try), or Bismarck manages to get enough of a force to take down Varna.
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Spoiler :
tech wise I think buy universities with cash and buy GS with faith later should be enough.

You should only keep the Maya capital to reduce city numbers. otherwise national college is too expensive

if cash is not problem buy libraries to speed up NC
 
Since we are learning, not all just trying to win on our own. What is the right way to approach this map?
 
Great! Thanks BWS! :)

I'm not sure when I'll be able to play, but I definitely will. It's looking challenging already. Desert on one side, jungles on the other side and low production if we settle on coast. I'm hoping there are horses somewhere on these plains too. Oh, decisions, decisions... :crazyeye: Why don't we start with scout instead of warrior? :lol:
 
I've played 42 turns.

Spoiler :

I ended up choosing Tradition because I wanted the growth. I borrowed heavily to get a worker circa t19.

I decided to try focussing on gold and I sold my luxuries bought my second settler. I put in a granary and am now building archers and another worker. I planted him 2 tiles away from faith montain and borrowed again to snipe the mountain before the CS could claim it. When city 2 gets to 2 pop, I will be a faith machine.

Strategically, I will denounce Pacal and try to take his lands.

 
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