G-Minor XLVII

Denniz · Feb 16, 2013

[img=right]http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/170/hofgauntlet.jpg[/img]While the general Hall of Fame is an ongoing competition, we like to run time-definite competitions between updates that we call Gauntlets. Standard Hall of Fame rules (*) still apply, but any games meeting the settings will be counted towards the Gauntlet.

(*) Please read the >> HOF rules << BEFORE playing!

Settings:

Expansion: Gods & Kings + DLC
Victory Condition: Diplomacy (though all victory conditions must be enabled)
Difficulty: Warlord
Map Size: Standard
Map Type: Frontier
Speed: Standard
Leader: Maya (Pacal)
Required: One City Challenge
Opponents: Any
Version: SV8
Date: 16th February to 1st March 2013

The earliest finish date wins, with score as a tiebreaker.

vexing · Feb 16, 2013

let the rerolling for desert begin again =)

Neuro · Feb 16, 2013

I see lots of rerolls in my future. The question is, do I go for Low Sea Level to put more room between me and the other civs, or High Sea Level in order to restrict their growth so they don't overwhelm me later on?

vexing · Feb 16, 2013

it is only warlord difficulty. AI overwhelming shouldn't be a problem.

Moriarte · Feb 17, 2013

Neuro said:
I see lots of rerolls in my future. The question is, do I go for Low Sea Level to put more room between me and the other civs, or High Sea Level in order to restrict their growth so they don't overwhelm me later on?

I think high sea level. Closer workers to snatch

Neuro · Feb 17, 2013

Frontier Map on Low sea level is HUGE. On my next try, I might have to go back to normal.

Starting spot:

Spoiler :

So far so good, turn 86 and I'm chugging along. Just finished Petra, working on Stonehenge, and I'm 4 turns from Education. Took GS as my first great person for the Academy, but I think for the second I'll take a General or Admiral, they don't increase the GP count.

Moriarte · Feb 17, 2013

Prophet doesn't either as far as i know.

Neuro · Feb 17, 2013

Unfortunately it does, if you take it with the UA. Learned that in the GOTM54.

The advantage in taking the Great Admiral is that if you're landlocked, it'll teleport to the nearest shore, and it can transit Ocean water immediately, even if you haven't gotten Astronomy, so you can use it to explore if you aren't on the coast.

vexing · Feb 17, 2013

Neuro said:
Unfortunately it does, if you take it with the UA.

really? i thought it just upped the prophet counter, not the general one

Neuro · Feb 17, 2013

vexing said:
really? i thought it just upped the prophet counter, not the general one

Nope, it does both, just confirmed in my current game.

The Great Admiral decision would have been great if it didn't plop me in a small ice-bound area of the coast =). And the Great General will be very useful in case there's no coal/aluminum nearby.

Peets · Feb 17, 2013

Neuro said:
And the Great General will be very useful in case there's no coal/aluminum nearby.

How so?

Neuro · Feb 17, 2013

Peets said:
How so?

Since we're OCC, our range of resources is limited to five tiles. The General's Citadel can grab resources 2 more tiles out, which is great if we're missing Coal or Aluminum. While Iron and Horses are easily obtained from City-States, the CSs usually don't have the tech for Coal and Alum, especially on Warlord.

Peets · Feb 17, 2013

Neuro said:
Since we're OCC, our range of resources is limited to five tiles. The General's Citadel can grab resources 2 more tiles out, which is great if we're missing Coal or Aluminum. While Iron and Horses are easily obtained from City-States, the CSs usually don't have the tech for Coal and Alum, especially on Warlord.

I didn't knew that, thanks

subanark · Feb 17, 2013

Is a desert start (heavy hills) better than a heavy deer start (with forests) as you can use goddess of the hunt to get some pretty good food bonuses?

Neuro · Feb 17, 2013

I'd rather have the desert start, assuming there's a river as well. Desert Folklore and Petra will make the desert powerful.

Humdinger · Feb 17, 2013

vexing said:
let the rerolling for desert begin again =)

Vexing, would you mind putting up a screen shot or two of what you think a good starting position would be?

vexing · Feb 17, 2013

next to a mountain with lots of desert hills around, preferably near rivers.
this was good enough that i played it for a first attempt, but it could have been better:

Spoiler :

Humdinger · Feb 17, 2013

Thank you.

I did one game today - 301 turns. Was on a river with 4 grain nearby and 2 wine, would have like the reverse instead.

WarFox · Feb 18, 2013

meh 409... really stopped at teching somewhere in ind-ato ages...
could anybody help me out, and teach how to tech properly, especially with those RAs... I still can't understand how other people can make 8 techs at once...

Salomo · Feb 18, 2013

Turn 241 - and I should have finished 19 turns earlier if I hadn't overestimated the science needed so much.

I would be suprised if the winner does not get below 200

Edit: Oh, I did have a niceish start though - 3 Salt, 2 Wheat, and a couple of flood plains. If I had had a little more desert, it would have been perfet.

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