Merenptah
Warlord
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- Dec 21, 2012
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Having only recently found that Great Admiral can cross oceans without Astronomy, I came up with the following extreme setup and strategy.
Setup: Immortal, Continents Plus, 40 City-States, Barbs off, Policy saving enabled; rest standard
Ingredients and main idea:
Suggested Strategy
Tradition -> Aristocracy; Commerce -> Naval Tradition ; Patronage -> Aesthetics; Finish Tradition; Scholasticism; Rationalism
Save Culture for Medieval era; Aristocracy is not necessary but it speeds up NC and helps with Oracle and Petra which are quite easy to get even on Immortal level.
Desert Folklore, Ceremonial Burial, Religious Community, Asceticism, Religious Unity
Writing -> Calendar -> The Wheel -> Philosophy -> Guilds (opens Medieval era sooner: spend all your Culture now and go exploring with your Great Admiral) -> Education -> Astronomy (now you can send your Missionaries off-shore)
Save

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I have chosen this nice desert starting location because getting a Religion is quite important for the success of this strategy. On levels lower than Immortal this should work on a non-desert start as well. Note that Happiness and not Gold are the biggest limitation to marrying City-States and that's where Religion can help immensely.
Having played a few turns already I can attest that this particular start is seriously OP (pure luck and I doubt I will ever get such favourable start again
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Setup: Immortal, Continents Plus, 40 City-States, Barbs off, Policy saving enabled; rest standard
Ingredients and main idea:
- Landlocked OCC is better than coastal because there will be more available tiles and no sea resources to worry about; in addition, OCC will make it easier to deal with the AI peacefully
- Use Naval Tradition to get an enhanced Great Admiral to meet off-shore City-States as well as Civilizations on other continents early
- Use Aesthetics + Pledge to Protect to befriend 40 City States
- Use Religious Unity (= Religion spreads to friendly CS at double rate) to spread your religion quickly and get a massive boost to Happiness via Ceremonial Burial
- Acquire as many puppets as possible via Diplomatic Marriage
Suggested Strategy
Spoiler :

Save Culture for Medieval era; Aristocracy is not necessary but it speeds up NC and helps with Oracle and Petra which are quite easy to get even on Immortal level.



View attachment AMP_0000 BC-4000 Start.Civ5Save
I have chosen this nice desert starting location because getting a Religion is quite important for the success of this strategy. On levels lower than Immortal this should work on a non-desert start as well. Note that Happiness and not Gold are the biggest limitation to marrying City-States and that's where Religion can help immensely.
Having played a few turns already I can attest that this particular start is seriously OP (pure luck and I doubt I will ever get such favourable start again

Spoiler :
Move settler west and youll get a riverside Hill start with three Wheat and five Calendar based Lux (in addition to the Marble). Move warrior NE and there is El Dorado for a nice 500g to get you started.