[WIP] Fallout Civs

RawSasquatch · Apr 6, 2015

Pack 1

Reddit Post|Imgur Album|Steam Workshop
Fallout Religions | Barbarians Into Raiders

Pack 2

Brotherhood of Steel (Maxson)
Start Bias: Hills
Capital: Lost Hills
UA: The Codex (needs much better name)
Recon units may enter enemy land without Open Borders, and gain +1 XP per turn spent there. Leveling up Scouts, stealing Technology, and killing Spies provides points towards :c5greatperson:

Scribes, which may write unique Great Works that yield +2 :c5science:

Science. May purchase Scribes with :c5faith:

Faith after entering the Industrial Era.
UU: Paladin (Replaces Infantry)
Stronger than the Infantry it replaces (80 strength vs 70), but costs more to produce. Converts 200% of a defeated enemy's strength into :c5science:

Science.
UB: Bunker (Replaces Bomb Shelter)
Unlocked with Scientific Theory, and costs less to build than the Bomb Shelter it replaces. Decreases Population loss from nukes. Increases the Strength and HP of the city. Contains 2 slots for Great Works of Writing.
Peace Theme|War Theme

The Enclave (Dick Richardson)
Start Bias: Coastal
Capital: Navarro
UA: Semper Fi
Converting :c5production:

Production into :c5science:

Research is 50% more effective, and cities building Research are :c5strength:

stronger and provide a combat bonus to adjacent units. Guided and Nuclear Missiles have 50% greater Range.
UU: Hellfire Trooper (Replaces XCOM Squad)
Available earlier than the XCOM Squad it replaces (Advanced Ballistics instead of Nanotechnology), the Hellfire Trooper is significantly weaker (80 Strength vs 100), but begins with the Blitz promotion, allowing it to attack immediately after Paradropping.
UU: Vertibird (Replaces Helicopter Gunship)
Unique Enclave Helicopter Gunship that can move 8 tiles per turn and carry one Missile as Cargo, unlike the unit it replaces. Grants a city attack bonus to nearby friendly units when next to an enemy city.
No ideas for Peace or War themes

Individual Civs

New Vegas (House)
Start Bias: Desert
Capital: New Vegas
UA: The House Always Wins
May only settle 4 cities per game. Upon discovering Electronics, may acquire the Platinum Chip to permanently upgrade Armor and Ranged units. 75% less :c5citizen:

population loss from Nuclear Attacks in all cities.
UU: Securitron Mk. I (Replaces Machine Gun)
Unlocked with Electronics instead of Ballistics. +1 :c5moves:

Movement. Upon acquiring the Platinum Chip, all Mk. I Securitrons permanently upgrade to more powerful Mk. II Securitrons.
UU: Securitron Mk. II
May only be acquired after securing the Platinum Chip, and replaces the Securitron Mk. I. Has Strength on par with a Bazooka, which is further increased when stationed in a City.
UB: Casino (Replaces Stock Exchange)
The first 4 Casinos you build function as unique Wonders that provide Tourism and other benefits.
No ideas for peace or war themes
Details on the 4 Casino wonders and the acquisition of the Platinum Chip:

Spoiler :

Zion (Joshua Graham)
Start Bias: Hills
Capital: Zion Canyon
UA: Way of The Canaanite
Gun-based units receive a 10% Combat Bonus vs other melee units, increased to 20% within 2 tiles of a city that follows your Religion. Receive double :c5faith:

Faith from Natural Wonders.
UU: Dead Horse Warrior (Replaces Warrior)
Unique Warrior for Zion. Receives +1 Sight while in Hills, and gains XP upon discovering a Natural Wonder. Additionally, is affected by the Way of The Canaanite trait, receiving a bonus vs Melee and Gun units.
UB: Sacred Cave (Replaces Shrine)
In addition to the normal effect of the Shrine, it yields an extra +1 :c5faith:

Faith for every Mountain or Natural Wonder within 2 tiles of the city. Costs no :c5gold:

gold maintainence.
Peace Theme|War Theme

Commonwealth Minutemen (Preston Garvey)
Start Bias: Coastal
Capital: :c5capital:

Fort Independence
UA: United We Stand
Killing Barbarians and clearing Encampments provides double :c5influence:

Influence with City-States, and Great Generals may be expended to peacefully annex City-States.
UU: Laser Musketman (Replaces Rifleman)
Replaces the Rifleman. Receives a combat bonus and does not degrade :c5influence:

Influence when stationed in a friendly City-State, and provides more Great General points from combat.
UB: Recruitment Beacon (Replaces Broadcast Tower)
In addition to the normal effects of the Broadcast Tower, the Recruitment Beacon provides +1 :c5citizen:

Population and +1 :c5happy:

Happiness in the city in which it was built, and an additional +2 of each if the city has less than 6 :c5citizen:

citizens. Does not require a Museum to build.
Peace Theme|War Theme

Spoiler The Institute: FALLOUT 4 SPOILERS :

RawSasquatch · Apr 6, 2015

Assets

City Lists:

Spoiler :

Spy Lists:

Spoiler :

Mod Support

JFD's Cultural Diversity

Taking place in post-apocalyptic America and being comprised of post-apocalyptic Americans, all the factions would be sitting comfortably in the Colonial culture, if not for that distinctive post-apocalyptic twinge. If it's easy enough and we feel up to designing and including a unique "Post-Apocalyptic" culture (complete with a unique starting bonus and unique Era-change splash screens), we could do that instead, though! I'm trying to focus on getting the civs themselves together first, so anyone who has any ideas, feel free to fire away.

Events and Decisions

Spoiler :

RawSasquatch · Apr 6, 2015

Reserved.

bouncymischa · Apr 7, 2015

RawSasquatch said:
UU: Hellfire Trooper (Replaces XCOM Squad)
Available earlier than the XCOM Squad it replaces (Advanced Ballistics instead of Nanotechnology), the Hellfire Trooper is significantly weaker (80 Strength vs 100), but it may attack immediately after Paradropping.
UU: Vertibird (Replaces Helicopter Gunship)
Unique Enclave Helicopter Gunship that can move 8 tiles per turn and carry one Infantry or Ranged unit as Cargo, unlike the unit it replaces.

I've finally started trying to learn how to convert Civ 4 models to Civ 5 in an effort to get some sci-fi models converted, so I might be able to get something for a Vertibird or a Securitron... but I'm not terribly confident I'll get the hang of it in time.

On the other hand, I did just successfully finish Nomad or What's tutorial about adding custom unit effects, so I'm pretty sure I can make you a set of XCOM troopers that fire flamethrowers. All they'd need then would be to reskin the armor to make it all dark :3

RawSasquatch · Apr 7, 2015

I think I'm gonna keep the default green laser blast for the Hellfire Trooper. (Equipping them with Plasma Rifles instead of the Heavy Incinerator, and the FO2 Enclave armor/Remnants Power Armor instead of Hellfire Armor. I think it makes for a better icon/model.) I am definitely excited to hear that you're getting into unit conversion! If your awesome improvement models are anything to go off, I'd bet you could do some great units. And I haven't found any Vertibird models (only a V22 Osprey), but I'm really thankful that the Securitrons + Liberty Prime already exist for potential conversion.

Kiang · Apr 7, 2015

I'm sorry that I can't offer much in the way of practical help, but despite not having anything useful to contribute, I know that it's always a good feeling to have people comment enthusiastically on one's projects. I've spent more time playing Fallout than I'd care to admit, and I'm ecstatic that we're getting some Fallout recognition in the modding community. Thank you!

nazguleater · Apr 7, 2015

First of all, i'm a huge Fallout fan, so seeing this is almost a dream come true!

Some suggestions:
The Enclave motto could be "Semper Fi", which is said by Frank Horrigan as his last words
They could also have double oil resources?
Also, if you are going to use the Hellfire trooper, please use a heavy incinerator typpe weapon, otherwise it wouldn't fit the unit :C

If i have the time, i might help with some artwork, PM me any thing you need and i'll see what i can do

Lastly, is this how far your plan goes? If you see success, would you consider doing a post-apocalyptic Fallout map? Or a larger mod? Such as barbarians as raiders/wildlife, city-states as independent towns, events/decisions for various DLC inspired stuff? So many ideas to discuss!

shaglio · Apr 7, 2015

I've never played Fallout and I'm not into fictional modded civs. However, the designs for these (especially Pack 1) are so intriguing that I might just have to break my self-imposed rule.

Also, I don't know if you care about this or not, but JFD has a Paladin unit in his Francia civ.

bouncymischa · Apr 7, 2015

RawSasquatch said:
I think I'm gonna keep the default green laser blast for the Hellfire Trooper. (Equipping them with Plasma Rifles instead of the Heavy Incinerator, and the FO2 Enclave armor/Remnants Power Armor instead of Hellfire Armor. I think it makes for a better icon/model.) I am definitely excited to hear that you're getting into unit conversion! If your awesome improvement models are anything to go off, I'd bet you could do some great units. And I haven't found any Vertibird models (only a V22 Osprey), but I'm really thankful that the Securitrons + Liberty Prime already exist for potential conversion.

I have to agree with nazguleater, though -- the Heavy Incinerator is so iconic to the unit! And blasting people with Dromon blasts is always fun

I hope that I get the hang of unit conversions eventually... making improvements has gotten straight-forwards enough that it's basically like making things out of building blocks. (The only tricky part is making sure each object has the right texture assigned to it.) Unit models, though, have meshes and armatures and all kinds of scary things, so we'll see. It looks like Liberty Prime should be able to use humanoid animations, although I'm not so sure about the Securitrons. (I know some of the Civ 4 models use custom animations, which are a lot harder to convert.)

nazguleater said:
Lastly, is this how far your plan goes? If you see success, would you consider doing a post-apocalyptic Fallout map? Or a larger mod? Such as barbarians as raiders/wildlife, city-states as independent towns, events/decisions for various DLC inspired stuff? So many ideas to discuss!

It's not directly tied to RawSasquatch's mods, but I've been wanting to make some post-apocalyptic improvements for a while, so once I found out he was working on these mods I started digging into those. I'm not sure exactly how they might end up getting used, but a modmod that changes some of the existing improvement models and adds some new ones (such as incorporating a variation on the Trading Posts into Towns one) is possible.

shaglio said:
Also, I don't know if you care about this or not, but JFD has a Paladin unit in his Francia civ.

Given that Paladins in Fallout wear powered armor and carry laser guns, I'm not sure the two would get readily confused. (Obviously they'd both have to have unique identifiers within the code to avoid conflicts, though.) The Brotherhood Paladins were certainly named after the historical knights, but are so iconic to the setting I suspect there isn't really much of an alternative choice...

bouncymischa · Apr 7, 2015

Well... guess what just got uploaded today? XD

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=23829

TheD3rp · Apr 8, 2015

I think that House should only be able to found one city. Either that or he should only be able to found puppets.

RawSasquatch · Apr 8, 2015

Just updated the 2nd post with City Lists, Spy Lists, and planned mod support designs!

TheD3rp said:
I think that House should only be able to found one city. Either that or he should only be able to found puppets.

It does sound really good in theory, and was one of my original plans, but there are a number of issues. 1, Vegas doesn't have any benefits anywhere near as good, or at least as early-game relevant, as Venice's double trade routes, and wouldn't have any ways to peacefully acquire ANY other cities without war. 2, only allowing the player to found one city or allowing them to found as many puppets as they want would wreak havoc on my beloved 4-Unique-Casinos design. Plus, as you'll see in the city list I just attached, I really had to grasp at straws for unique city names. The likes of Nellis, Primm, and Goodsprings would require even further straw-grasping, given that they're not directly under the control of Mr. House's forces or the 3 Families.

nazguleater said:
Some suggestions:
The Enclave motto could be "Semper Fi", which is said by Frank Horrigan as his last words
They could also have double oil resources?
Also, if you are going to use the Hellfire trooper, please use a heavy incinerator typpe weapon, otherwise it wouldn't fit the unit :C

bouncymischa said:
I have to agree with nazguleater, though -- the Heavy Incinerator is so iconic to the unit! And blasting people with Dromon blasts is always fun

I do like that Semper Fi idea. Though I take it the double oil is a reference to the Enclave Oil Rig, and that's going to be represented though the Events and Decisions support. And as for the Hellfire Trooper's Incinerator, we'll just have to wait and see what sort of art defines we can acquire for the unit. If we get one with the proper power armor and an Incinerator, then I'll definitely run with it. Ideally, I'd want 3 with the incinerator in the back row, and then 2 with Plasma Rifles up front, though getting 4 entirely unique models for that pack (Hellfire incinerator, Hellfire plasma, Paladin, Liberty Prime) may be stretching it a bit. I'll probably have the icon be the guy in FO2/Remnants armor with a rifle in the front, flanked by a legit Hellfire Trooper in the back, solely for aesthetics.

bouncymischa said:
Well... guess what just got uploaded today? XD

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=23829

Well, we've got no excuses now! If it doesn't work on Civ 5 gunship animations, I do not pity the person who has to convert it.

Alganon · Apr 8, 2015

We need an Fallout China under Chairman Cheng

Natan35 · Apr 8, 2015

I have to say, Caesar looks very much... like a real Caesar.
Designs look very nice.

RawSasquatch · Apr 9, 2015

So, I got some more art done! I finally started using DJS's icon tutorial instead of just skimming over the basics and winging it, like I used to do. Here are the icons for the Desert Ranger and the Veteran Ranger!

As a bonus, here are the 4 planned unit flags for the Desert Ranger, Veteran Ranger, Praetorian Guard, and Legate, in that order:

So, other than the 3D art and the leader art/icons, that's all the major art for Pack 1 done. Now, I can mostly focus on actually putting the mod together. It's my birthday tomorrow (the 10th), though, so I'll be out of town that day.

Alganon · Apr 9, 2015

Can´t wait to play this mods.

DoctorMcGann · Apr 9, 2015

Really nice job on those icons!

TLhikan · Apr 15, 2015

Taking place in post-apocalyptic America and being comprised of post-apocalyptic Americans, all the factions would be sitting comfortably in the Colonial culture, if not for that distinctive post-apocalyptic twinge. If it's easy enough and we feel up to designing and including a unique "Post-Apocalyptic" culture (complete with a unique starting bonus and unique Era-change splash screens), we could do that instead, though! I'm trying to focus on getting the civs themselves together first, so anyone who has any ideas, feel free to fire away.

I was just thinking of some fictional-civ cultural groups (Robotic, supernatural, etc.). I don't know about splash screens, but for the starting bonus, I had the idea of staring units getting Survivalism 1 and always starting next to an Ancient Ruins.

TomatoesYay · Apr 19, 2015

Wow this mod looks great! Can't wait to play it!!

Just wondering, for that ability for New Vegas to only have 4 cities (+1 if they somehow get an extra), is that a modified version of Venice's Serenissima or a custom lua code?

Also, have you thought of putting the Shi faction in the mod as well? :3

dragonprobably · Apr 20, 2015

I was actually thinking of making some Fallout mods. I brainstormed some ideas for it and compiled them into this. Take whatever ideas you like.

[WIP] Fallout Civs

Minuteman

Minuteman

Minuteman

Synthetic Genie

Minuteman

Eternally Tired

Chieftain

The Prince of Dorkness

Synthetic Genie

Synthetic Genie

Lowly Footsoldier

Minuteman

Warlord

Mayor of St. Natansburg

Minuteman

Warlord

Emperor

Chieftain

Chieftain

The Poster Formerly Known as MartinLuther

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