Spanish Revenge - Second Emperor Attempt

steviejay

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Ok, after being pipped to the post by the depressingly powerful Celts in my first ever attempt at an Emperor game (and my first story which can be viewed here ) its time to get payback.

I'm certain I could have won that game, if it wasn't for a few mistakes on my part early on, so I'm going to try again.

Rules are the same as last game, I return to the throne of the Great Spanish Empire, but this time, the game will be played solely in C3C, changing the powerful Spanish from Commercial and Religious, to Seafaring and Religious.

There are little rules, apart from trying to win this round, and if the opportunity comes up to wipe the pathetic Celts off the face of the planet, then it’s all good.

The first game tested a few things. Now I mean business. Republic is a must, keep wars brief, or at least very bloody for the other side, bring Conquistadors into play a lot quicker. Oh yeah, and win this time.

If I don't win, I'm gonna sulk for a few months :lol: and never play as the Spanish again.

Spanish Revenge

Civ: Spain
Enemies: 15 Civ’s (Celts, Chinese, Iroquois and Koreans added intentionally, rest random)
Difficulty: Emperor
World Size: Huge
Land Mass: Large Continents, Wet, Warm, 4 Billion Years
Barbarians: Roaming
Default Rules

(same as last game)
 
i loved your last game. next time i suggest u break a civ prob u let the celts grab too much land off the russians. wat happened to your science try to keep up with them by switchin to republic and droping sciene so u can trade .since spian is religous aim for GW bach and Sistine to keep entertainter slider down and help war weariness
 
Awesome hope this story is as good as the last one and hopefully you will win this game, goodluck.
 
good luck lad, and you forgot to add the Russians...
 
oh no, the Russians were added, its just my stupidity to leave them out of the original post.

I really need to win this time, or I may never have the courage to show face in the Stories and Tales forum again

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“Madrid shall be founded here!” proclaims Isabella, “the capital will use the land to grow to a huge size, now, advisors, tell me what the countryside is like”….

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Here’s the known world circa 4000BC, hills to the north, a river flowing east, forests to the north. Set research to writing and I’ll head there at minimum science (due in 50), pulling in 4gpt. On prompted for a heading which Spanish workers should take, Isabella insists that Spain must produce 2 warriors, a settler and then a granary.

3750BC
Spain produces herfirst warrior, he shall head west, along the river in the hope of finding its source.

3550BC
On its travels my warrior comes across a mountain, upon climbing it he gazes upon the cold tundra of the south, definitely not some place where I’d like to place my cities. However it does show a herd of cows just north of the mountain and good grassland, so it is decided that Isabella’s next city will follow the river and settle near Madrid.

3450BC
Madrid produces another warrior. This one however will head away from the river and will instead follow the coast.

3400BC
The first warrior finds the source of the river, a huge mountain. Unfortunately the warrior has not found anything else of interest so it shall head further west in the hope of finding other civilizations.

3200BC
On following another river our first warrior stumbles across another warrior scout from another land, they seem strange to us and they call themselves the KOREANS.

They are cautious of the glorious Spanish Empire, and so they should be. Soon they will fear the very mention of our name. For the time being however they have mastered the secrets of tempering bronze yet are religiously backwards with no concept of worship, they worship no divine being, and have also yet to master the arts of potted jars. The religious Spanish people are appauled at the extent of how backward the Korean people are and insist that we spread the word of our religion to the unbelievers. In a trade of skills we are taught the art of Bronze Working in exhange for showing the Korean people the Divine light of God and also Pottery for which to help their poor civilization grow.

3150BC
The Koreans seem to be working their way westward so my warrior will head north into uncharted territory in the hope of furthering the knowledge of the Spanish Empire.

3100BC
A friendly Jute tribe have gifted to us their best warriors, these fighters will greatly aid the Spanish Empire.

3000BC
Exactly 1000 years since the rise of the great city of Madrid, a settler is formed and given the instruction of settling the land found by the warriors of Spain centuries ago.

IBT- During the course of the years, a wise man has travelled the earth, to places and civilizations so far away that not even rumours of their deeds have found their way to Isabella’s ears. His name is Machiavelli and he has formed a list of the Wealthiest Nations of the World. It greatly pleases Isabella to hear that her people, the “Glorious Spanish”, are the most wealthy of all the people of the world.

The complete list is as follows
Glorious Spanish
Great Russians <----- Yup they’re there >
Fine Chinese
Mediocre Inca
Puny Portuguese
Pathetic Carthaginians
Hopeless Indians
Forgotten Babylonians.

2800BC
In the year of our Lord 2800BC, after 200 years of travelling, (just a leisurely stroll) the settlers sent from Madrid finally reach their destination and the great city of Barcelona is formed.

2670BC
A warrior from Spain comes across a small village deep in the wilderness, far from the reaches of Spain, however, this village know of Isabella’s deeds and they also are aware of her potential and to gain the favour of the Spanish Empire, they gift us 25 gold to help in the prosperity of the Spanish Empire.

2630BC
Unfortunately, for every Jute village that basks in the divine right of the Spanish People, there is a Bulgar tribe which believes themselves superiour to Isabella’s troops and rise up in arms against them.

2550BC
For the past 100 years or so workers of Spain sent from Madrid has been working in secret, working far from the eyes of the citizens of the Spanish capital, its mission has taken many years but finally it is complete. And the labours of their work can now be revealed, animal skins from the forests to the north arrive in the markets of Madrid for trading amongst the people. This luxury greatly pleases both the people of Madrid but also Isabella, who is now seem in and around her palace wearing the finest array of furs from a variety of animals

2510BC
On their travels a warrior scounts come across a rather odd phenomenon, a mountain which spews out the very fires of hell!! This creation of the devil is far enough from the eyes of the humble people of Madrid to avoid a panic and any possible expansion must avoid this place at all costs. This place shall be known as Devil’s Mountain.

2430BC
The great Burgundian tribe comes forth to teach the great warriors of Spain a new art of fighting, they show us that there needs to be a certain code of behaviour when fighting in order to allow for men to become better warriors. The tribe is greatly thanked by the warrior who discovered them and a promise that they will not be forgotten.

Isabella is so pleased with the learning of this that she immediately sends her emissaries to Korea to speak personally to King Wang Kon in order to share this knowledge in exchange for compensation of Spain’s part. Alas, they are still backwards compared to the intelligent Spanish and the Spanish emissaries leave without any form of exchange.

2310BC
In the city of Madrid a great building is constructed, Madrid’s Granary will allow the more prompt dispatching of settlers in order to better colonize the world and spread the word of the Spanish Empire.

Deep in the wilderness, far from the Spanish Empire, Isabella’s own messangers are continuing to preach the joys of the Spanish Empire to any other human beings they may find. These words have fallen favourably on the ears of the chieftain of a Phoenician tribe. They have shown us exactly how we may interpret God’s words through forces of nature, they call it Mysticism and it indeed shall greatly enrich the priests and wise men of Spain.

Isabella is still harbouring the idea of a trade agreement with the Korean people, such a trade now would allow a better friendship to form and also a possible alliance. For the second time in 20 years emissaries are sent to the Korean capital in the hope of a trade and……… oh, they now know the art of tempering iron and the ability to construct larger buildings using material far in advance of even the best palaces in Madrid.

Unfortunately the friendship that Isabella was hoping for is not in the mind of Wang Kon, who insists that Spain must part with a huge sum, all of their reserves (245g and 3gpt) along with their newly discovered knowledge of Mysticism to be taught the workings of Iron, such a price is out of the question for Spain and instead the emissaries return from the Korean capital with the knowledge of Masonry, which was traded for the sum of Mysticism and 45 gold.

IBT-
The warrior which was so generously gifted to us by the Jute people was ambushed whilst it was nearing another friendly village by some unknown barbarians, although outnumbered 2 to 1, the warriors showed their skill in battle by killing off the infidels and as a result, the warrior gains a great deal of experience, going from a conscript to a regular.
 
2230BC
Following a run of luck which surely has to be a gift from the Gods directly to Isabella, the Jute warrior comes across another village far from civilization. These people are simple but they transport around and farm their land using strange wooden constructions. They are indeed suitably impressed with what the Spanish people stand for that they share this knowledge, and the Great Spanish Empire learn the secrets of “the Wheel”.

The Koreans surely must not know of such devices?? A trade must be bartered.

“Dear Wang Kon, perhaps this strange device will allow you to part with your knowledge of Iron Working??”
“Absolutely not, if you want our secrets then you must give pay handsomely, how about this?”
“My liege!! That is simply unacceptable, that is all of our treasury, we cannot afford such a deal”
“Then our secrets are our own”
“well what will you give for the secrets of the wheel? Surely you must be aware of its potential implications?”
“well……..90 gold?”
“I believe Isabella can accept such a deal, good doing business with you King Wang Kon”

2150BC
With the growing size of Madrid, and the fact that Spanish Warriors are so far from their loved ones proves too much for the great people of Madrid, and they take to the streets in protest. Isabella meets with her wise men to discuss a solution for this. There is much discussion and after great debate there are three solutions.

“My lady, we can do three things, 1. We could train another warrior for defencive purposes and also to quell the rioters, 2. We could take some of the rioters and form them into entertainers or 3. We could raise the luxuries throughout the empire.

Isabella thought about this for a time, “We cannot stop work on our settlers, Spain needs to grow quickly, so we cannot train new warriors and we can’t take the rioters and make them entertainers, they are needed in their workshops building equipment for the settlers, so raise luxuries, just a little, I do not want to be bankrupt.”

“So it shall be done my Queen”

2110BC
Word reaches the people of Barcelona of the plight of the people of Madrid, and they also rise up in protest. Luxuries set to 20%. A road to Barcelona will soon be completed so soon the furs which have been making the people of Madrid happy will soon find their ways into the people of Barcelona’s hands allowing luxuries to fall further.

2070BC
For the first time in hundred of years, our warriors finally find new life other than the irritating barbarian tribes. They speak of themselves as the Sumerians and they are truly a warrior people, their warriors are heavily armed, so much so that our own warriors seem inferiour as a result.

King Gilgamesh seems to be friendly however. Although they seem unable to teach us how to construct their Enkidu warriors they are however knowledgeable in the ways of Iron, and at a much cheaper price than the Koreans, they part with such knowledge. Teaching them the ways of the Wheel and 140 secures the purchase. Not even half of Spain’s gold was needed to learn these new ways.

2070BC
In such a productive year two things have happened. Firstly Madrid has produced another settler, which will be sent north into the forests to secure more furs supplies for Spain. Soon however a settler must be sent far into the West, to secure the only deposit of Iron which is in the land Spain is aware of.

Secondly

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cont....

Two warriors from the nation of Egypt come into view of one of my own warriors and a dialogue is struck up. These people are simple by comparison of the cvilizations already known by the Spanish Empire. To better their own people, Spain shall part with the knowledge of Mysticism for all their wealth. The skills of Iron Working and Alphabet will be hidden from the people so that they shall grow slow, the people of Spain do not need a powerful enemy on every front.

A Spanish warrior is able to disperse a barbarian camp far to the north, and amongst the ruins of the simple hunts is a vast sum of plunder. This shall greatly benefit the Spanish Empire.

2030BC
Aware of the huge sacrifices Isabella is making in order to further the Spanish Empire, the greatest builders in all the land form on Isabella’s palace to improve her living conditions.

Alas, this was before the news reach her that a warrior of Spain was slain in battle attempt to rid the world of the Barbarians. More bad news ensures as a warrior enters a small village and inadvertly drinks from the Holy well, such an insult ensures that the men folk of the village rise up against Spain’s warriors.

1910BC
The settlers sent from Madrid finally reach the place they were instructed to, the forests north of Madrid. Here they form another great city, the city of Seville.

1830BC
Another dark day for Spain. Another Spanish Warrior insulted the chief of a small tribe, and as a result the tribe declare war on Spain. Isabella makes a note to instruct her generals to teach their troops some manners.

1790BC
A lone wise man runs into Isabella’s court clutching all manner of things, he is breathless but seems excited.

“My Queen, we have finally mastered it!! The art of writing is now ours!!”
“What does it do?”
“Erm…. It means we can now store our knowledge on all manner of things, and also allows us to set up a perminant base in the capitals of our enemies, this skill was not easy to come by!!”
“Hmm……. So does that mean not many people would know it??”
“erm…….well no I do not think so”
“Interesting……. Ok wiseman, send Emmisaries to all the people that we know, the Koreans, the Sumerians and the Egyptians”
“yeah my Queen, but tell me, what about the Chinese??”
“……….. the who???”

Seems I’ve known these people and didn’t realise it :mad:

The Chinese don’t know much, and have no money.

Build Embassies in all the capitals.
Egypt- size 1, guarded by a spearman and a settler, 3spt, on 100% science
Sumeria- size 4, Guarded by 3 Eduka Warriors, 7spt, on 80% science, 20% tax. Oracle in 25 turns
Korea – size 1, Guarded by a spearman, 3spt, 100% science.
China – size 1, Guarded by a spearman, 3spt, 100% science.

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The above pic is a before and after shot of the mini map after I build embassies, as you can see I’m pretty much boxed in. The Egyptians and Sumerians can’t expand west and north respectively because of the Koreans and Chinese so they’ll take my land (as you can see the Sumerians are already doing) The Sumerian city next to my own is scarily close to the iron deposit so I’ll need to build my next city there. This game could get hairy very quickly.
 
criticism is welcome, I've been playing this and it seems a great deal harder than my last Spanish game
 
to get ahead in the tech race . see what your science advisor offers u to trade after each advance . i think this is probally what the a.i is reachering next switch tto adiffrent 1 and then trade this way u can play broker statergy but still keep an edge
 
You are in need of more cities. How to do this ?

Tips: start a granary and whip it. After that start pumping settlers like there is no tomorrow.
Improve the lands with workers.
To do this, you should stop producing military, they are nice for scouting and police, but they use up valuable shields.

Build some curraghs. Explore over sea as well.
 
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