New Govt Icons

[Rufus T. Firefly]

There are some new govt that modders can use:

• Absolute monarchy / Constitutional monarchy / Jacobin republic
  
  
  
  Download them! (original thread)
  
  
• Left govs:
  Socialism / Bolshevism / Stalinism (?) / Communism
  
  
  
  Download Socialism!
  Download Bolshevism!
  Download Stalinism!
  Download Communism!
  
  
• Right govs:
  Imperialism / Totalitarianism / Fascism / Fascism (2) / Military junta
  
  
  
  Download Imperialism!
  Download Totalitarianism!
  Download Fascism!
  Download Fascism (2)!
  Download Military junta (2)!
  
  
• Misc. govs:
  Federalism / Theocracy / Presidentialism / Federalism (2)
  
  
  
  Download Federalism!
  Download Theocracy!
  Download Presidentialism!
  Download Federalism (2)!

[Ukas]

Originally posted by Rufus T.Firefly
Imperialism (strange, it's similar to Imperialism game )

Odd indeed! Fine Govt icons!

[Dann]

For some reason, your Imperialism and Totalitarianism icons appeal to me sooooo much. I must be crazier and more dangerous than I thought.

[tjedge1]

I love these. The first 3 will at least fit in my mod. Thanks.

[Ankka]

Nice one.

[Point13]

great, but Bolshevism isn't a government... it was just a group of communists who revolted and started the USSR

[MinosTheBlack]

I think he's making a government based on the idealologies of that political party (Bolshevik Party). Not sure where the term Bolshevism comes in here as a government . Basicly it was a tight organization of proffessional revolutionaries. I guess it could be made into government. Based on the Socialist ideas of Lenin. which in turn led to Soviet Russia. Again it was never really a government.

nice job though anyway! keep up good work

[Sims2789]

just curious, what program did you use and how long did each one take to make? good work, by the way.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Sims2789
just curious, what program did you use and how long did each one take to make? good work, by the way.

Poser 4.

[Alfonso]

The socialism icon is very good!

Great work, Rufus T.Firefly

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

How about fascism with the hand grabbing the globe real tight from above (i.e. burrying its fingers into earth) ?

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Forgot to say: Cool - Cooler - Rufus !!!

[Hygro]

BAHAHA I just noticed where you got the world maps from...

Risk

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Originally posted by Hygro
BAHAHA I just noticed where you got the world maps from...

Risk

Imperialism, anyone ??

[el_presidentse]

Ehh, in my non-studied opinion, he got the idea for the Imperialism graphic from the game, but not the graphic, which I recall being rather different.

VERY nice graphics, and a distinction between bolshevism and socialism is neat.

Given the nature of the two forms of government through history, I'd say that Bolshevism would probably be lots better at war and, if possible, with some bonus to production (maybe a building, call it Labor Camp, exclusively available to them? and a wonder which gives one in all continental cities -- Five Year Plan?) and so forth, as well as good worker efficiency. Tradeoff is possibly some kind of Despotism-style cap on commerce and non-'communal' corruption issues. Forced labor.

Socialism, on the other hand, would get something to raise happiness -- I haven't fiddled with the engine enough to know what, I'm afraid -- and the Democracy-style bonus to trade. The tradeoff is that they get war weariness fast and hard and culture flips are more likely (if this is possible -- due to the nature of Socialism, the government would have moral issues keeping people within their borders who didn't want to be). Communism-style corruption, only lower. Paid labor.

The idea is Bolshevism being the ideal government for a country that wants to build a productive nation out of nothing, and Socialism being a sort of super-Democracy.

Totalitarianism would obviously be a Fascism replacement. And Imperialism? Hmm. Maybe reduced rates of corruption due to distance, but the Fascism-style cultural hangup?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Yes, the world use the Risk map (now I have found some other old world map).

@Winter:

I think that you can use Totalitarianism icon, or not? If I make a new one with a world, I think that they would be too similar. But I'm thinking some other idea, not fear!

@El Presidente:
Imperialism could be a commercial gov for great civs, but with great corruption (on colonies)...

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Why make a new one when it's already made?

This is from my older DyP icon pack...

[Rufus T. Firefly]

EDIT: added new gov (the last what would be? It's my old socialism...).


... and happy labour day!

[el_presidentse]

Hoorah for may day.

New ones are nice (although I'm a little bewildered by what would separate totalitarianism and fascism except semantics? )

Re. federalism: The EU is an okay example, but the Iroquois were the ones who came up with the idea of a nation of nations, so Iroquois symbolism with regards to the government would serve a bit more justice to the subject (besides, we persnickety Westerners get all the screen time on these sorts of things as is!)

Possible things include the 'long house' idea -- the Seneca in the west being one 'door' of the long house they metaphorically lived in, the Mohawk in the east being the other; then there's the bundle of arrows idea -- the way the legend goes (obviously there's little telling if this is true or not, but the same goes for most of what happened before the scientific revolution), Hiawatha made a point about the strength of union with seven arrows. One he broke swiftly with his bare hands, but six bound together were impossible to break so easily. Maybe one broken arrow and six bound by string or something?

The Theocracy symbol is particularly excellent, IMO, because it incorporates symbolism that's concretely tied to one culture (and hey, what isn't? Even light from the sky wouldn't work, being as how the Navajo figured we came from the ground), but at the same time emblematic of what theocracies in general do.

Stalinism is... okay? I've always been somewhat disappointed by the over-profusion of Soviet symbolism for communist things. Why this is so is pretty obvious, but it smacks of determinism. A more industrialized country fallen into dire straits probably wouldn't have gone for a hammer and sickle, being as how those were symbols of industry for the backwoods, of which Russia mostly consisted at that time. I'd imagine that you'd end up with a cross between the NRA logo (thunderbolts and saw) and the old Angolan flag (weapon and gear tread).

Monarchy is all good.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

In the day of enlargement of EU, you would that I change the federal icon?

For Stalinism, I think that another idea could be DDR.

Fascism and Totalitarianism are similar, but not equal: Tot. could be prerequisite of Fasc. and Com. And this is a Winter request...