wondering about "rush building" (=whipping the lower classes)

Hello everyone.

I'm not sure I understand the mechanics of rush building through forced labor (aka slaughtering your one people), and my research has been inconclusive. I have read that you get twenty turns of unhappiness each time you resort to this interesting technique. But what happens if you kill 10 citizens in a row and the city falls down to one inhabitant? Will he be unhappy for 20 turns? Or 200?

In my last game, I got a foothold on a nice island that was about 15 squares from my main territory. I decided to build the FP there. So I founded a city on a neat area, and started bringing loads of workers just for them to be slaughtered to speed up the city development. This way, I "popped" a temple, a granary and a courthouse (to face a high corruption level) in about six turns. Then, I added more workers to the city and expected it to start working decently... Alas, all six inhabitants were unhappy and quickly starved to death but one. My question is, how long will it be before this city gets rid of the unhappiness raised by my whip?

Note: I'm playing vanilla Civ3 with patch 1.29f.

as far as I know it would be 20 turns from the last citizen killed, but the percentage of ticked off citizens will increase with everyone whipped. Can anyone verify??

In another very recent thread it was explained that when whipping multiple people to death, the unhappiness will be multiplied both in magnitude and duration.
Drafting and whipping are processed apart from eachother though.

If you whip N people, you will get N unhappines.
every 20 turns, N is reduced by one.

so whip 3, and you will have the first 20 turns 3 unhappiness, then 20 turns with 2 unhappiness, then 20 turns 1 unhappiness.

same goes for drafting, but as said its counted appart from eachother.
So whipping1 and drafting one means you will have 2 unhappiness for 20 turns, but none after that.

WackenOpenAir said:

If you whip N people, you will get N unhappines.
every 20 turns, N is reduced by one.
so whip 3, and you will have the first 20 turns 3 unhappiness, then 20 turns with 2 unhappiness, then 20 turns 1 unhappiness.

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Very enlightening, thank you!

I think it's actually worse than that, even. If you whip N, you get N unhappy for 20*N turns, starting from the very last whip.

Excessive whipping is extremely painful for happiness. The people remember for a LONG time.

Example:
Turn 3, whip 2 guys...2 unhappy for 40 turns, BUT...
Turn 41, whip 1 guy. Now you'll have 3 unhappy for 60 turns starting NOW, so until turn 101.

It's bad. There are certainly times when it's worth it, but the consequences of lots of whipping are fairly substantial.

Arathorn

Wow - that's some unhappiness. You can't just abandon the city to get rid of it, either.

Sounds like changing govt and buying is a better way to go.

This was a very helpful thread. I'll be sure to whip less because I never realized how harmful it can be... and to think, I liked whipping as opposed to rushing with cash.

Arathorn, I think you overestimate it. It can't be THAT hard.
Anyone else knows about this subject?