Who (other than the DP) should be able to halt the chat? Options discussion.

Who (other than the DP) should be able to halt the chat

  • The Citizenry

    Votes: 2 33.3%

  • The Council

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • The Citizenry and The Council

    Votes: 3 50.0%
  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .
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This is an official poll to determine who (other than the DP) should be able to halt the chat. Now, you may notice that there is no option for "the DP, and only the DP." That is because the result of this poll will be run against that option to determine the answer to this question once and for all. This poll will run for 5 days.

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This poll should definately have a "NOONE" option. The way this poll is worded, SOMEONE other than the DP should be able to halt the chat. But I'm sure this will get full Moderator support. ;)

BTW, I refused to vote in this biased poll.
 
Cyc, there will be a WHOLE NEW POLL to determine that. The winner of this poll will run against the DP in th new poll.
 
Seriously, Noldodan, I totally understand the concept you are trying to work with here. But that doesn't mean anyone else will. Not only was the original wording for this poll (thanks for adding the "no one", I voted that way) misleading, but even if understood, it negated or left out nearly 40% of the voters in the other poll because their option wasn't here.

It was bad enough that the winning option in that poll didn't win because of the "cumulative Polling" that was used to slant the scales, I had to address the original wording in this poll.

Much better now, even if it is redundant.
 
Cyc said:
(thanks for adding the "no one", I voted that way)
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Actually, RM added that, a decision that I am currently opposing via PM.
 
Rik Meleet said:
I didn't add it ...
I was going to, but Chieftess was faster.
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ACK! Sorry! I thought it was you because I saw only you in this forum when it happened. I guess CT uses invisible mode.

EDIT: The option of "no one" has been removed. To those who would have voted for it: There will be an option in the next poll to vote for that (the DP being the only one to be able to halt a chat).
 
Up with the citizenry! This is a democracy game, after all!

I've become quite the populist lately...
 
I am not voting in this poll and I hereby formally call that this poll be invalidated. By posting this poll without the *No One* option it will be biased against that option. The cart has been placed before the horse here once again. If the previous poll on this subject was only *informational* then we need to go back to that original question and hold a proper poll on it first.

Is there a moderator out there that is willing to poll this thing properly?
 
Moderator Action: I'm not going to poll it myself, but I will add my voice to those saying this poll is biased and another one should be posted. What I am going to do is close this poll, and leave the thread open with a different title and you can use it to discuss what options should be in the 'official' poll and how it should be presented.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
 
Well, that's a kick in the pants for me. Then here is my proposal: I will post a poll reading exactly like this one except that it will include the "No one" option. Now, are there any objections to this amended poll?
 
Just the citizenry. If a group of elected officials are for something, but not their constituants, something else is wrong. Go with the source.
 
If you want to make it a fair poll, list the options this way:

1. Chat attendees and Instruction-posting Leaders.

2. No one.

If you need to post three options, which shouldn't be necessary, don't make the poll Cumulative. :)
 
I disagree that this poll was biased or unfair. There has already been a poll which says that people other than the DP should have the authority to stop play.

Since that poll will probably never be recognized as valid, here is my suggestion of how to run the poll.

Q: Should anyone other than the DP have the power to stop game play during the chat.

Yes
No
Abstain

Do not make the mistake of leaving off the words "during the chat", or you'll cut off the ability to have instructions which say when to stop play.
 
there has to be a way for the chat to stop, otherwise we will have runaway situations where it was not planned for at all and will lead to what cyc described earlier in another thread: Anarchy
 
Alrighty then... How about a poll which just has 2 options: "The DP only" and "The DP, the chat-goers, and Council members at the chat." My reason for only putting that option as opposed to all three is that it received a clear majority in both polls. Any mods have an objection to running it like that?
 
I like the idea of just two options (although there should be an abstain option for people who don't or can't understand), but when you mention the "Council" you don't have to add "at the chat", 'cause 1. basically, Council at the chat are chat-goers and 2. the Council was in reference to posted Instructions. If you're suggesting that a Council member at a chat can cerimoniously call a stop to a chat as a situation concerning their Department arises, then you would reference that as an individual Leader, as the Council is not required to attend the chat, nor is a collective vote taken. The Council is required to post Instructions.
 
I don't see any reason to include the council as an option. If we do that, we open up the possibility of the council in attendance voting one way and the total citizens in attendance voting another. I say make it two options: if a majority of the citizens at the chat vote to halt the chat, then it is halted or only the DP can halt the chat.
 
eyrei said:
I don't see any reason to include the council as an option. If we do that, we open up the possibility of the council in attendance voting one way and the total citizens in attendance voting another. I say make it two options: if a majority of the citizens at the chat vote to halt the chat, then it is halted or only the DP can halt the chat.
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Exactly what I was proposing -- this is really a yes/no decision -- should anyone other than the DP be able to stop play during the play session?
 
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