The War Church

We are the Sword of the Empire. We are the Scourge of the Nations. We are the War Church.

Our Charter

1) Three words - RULE THE PLANET!
2) War is merely a form of foreign policy.
3) War is the forge in which great nations are formed.
4) War is Good.

Requirements

1) A will of steel.
2) A heart of courage.
3) A voice of fire.

List of War Churchmen

Knight-Dragon
omichyron
rmsharpe
Cunobelin of Hippo
Dell19
joespaniel
King of England
Ohwell
Wolfe Tone
gonzo_for_civ
jomey
Kev

The Glory of our Empire lies in the Strength of our Arms!

Note - All are welcomed, elected or non-elected. This is intended to be a militaristic organisation advocating a strong powerful respected military force. We are the antithesis of the puny Peaceniks (if it still exists more than a few days).

Doesn't the foundation of the War Church contravene your rules regarding membership of the watchers' guild? Surely you're going to have to try to get involved somehow rather than just posting "Kill them all" in every diplomatic forum? The very idea of a war church suggests proactivity, and leading from the front. Ideally, the leader of the war church will one day become minister for war to fulfil the ambitions of his followers - yet as a watcher you will be unable to do this.

Consistency is the sign of a small mind.

The War Church is merely a platform to promote the idea of domination of the world thru military means i.e. wars of conquest.

Plus the War Church has no leaders. I think it's pointless to start holding elections to decide the leader of a single-member denomination. The elections shld focus on the actual office-holders in our mighty nation. We (I for now) are merely a bunch of militaristic patriots who think that war is good for the glory of our nation.

I can Watch and I can also promote the idea that the glory of our empire lies in the strength of our arms on the battlefield. To me, there're no inconsistencies at all.

Besides, isn't it much more fun than a Church for No War?

From a historical standpoint, I seem to recall the Churches that stand for No War, as you call it, always seem to become embroiled in war rather quickly so the name of your Church is academic. Good luck with the militaristic dreams, but I don't want war until it's necessary (other civs on our continent) or fun (tanks!!!).

Come on; aren't there any militarists around here???

Well, I didn't intend to join a "church", but militarism is definately my department. In addition, partisan politics should be entertaining when the opportunity arises. I'll join, but only because it seems there are too many bizarre, pacifistic ideas floating about (no navy??? No war until tanks???).

ah, useless! my electorial foes...

I am, unfortunatley, a member of the Anti-Navy, and therfore Anti-War alliance. you can check it out on the forum.

Its the belif of... uh... me... no, let me make that sound better...
its the belif of the Emperor of the KEE Empire, that we dont need a military. All we need is defence.

after all, arent churches susposta make :love2: not :shotgun: :arrow: :soldier: :tank: :rocket3: :rocket2:

I'm a staunch militarist, and support any expansion of our mighty legions.

Finally, some response! I was beginning to worry you're a bunch of fumbling peaceniks. Welcome!

Anyway, the War Church is only a name I came out with; not really a religious church of any kind. If you have a better name for our militarist outfit, pls suggest and we'll discuss about it. We can always change the name of our organisation.

Pellaken, the War Church doesn't welcome pacifist weaklings within its holy ground!

I have refined the written goals of the War Church as stated in the 1st post in this thread to advocating a strong powerful respected military.

Mwahahahaha. The Diplomacy Deity denounces peaceniks worldwide and declares his membership in the war church. He looks forward to many battles to come...

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I will join because we must have a mighty army to crush our enemies and to throw the barbarians back to where they came from

(Now to start changing my voting tactics )

Originally posted by Knight-Dragon

2) War is merely a form of foreign policy.

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Shouldn't this be: "Foreign Policy is merely a form of War!"

:rocket:

By the way, KD, I won't be joining your church...I'm going to promote a pragmatic approach to our military, but I will certainly be supporting a military much stronger than some peacenik would want.

The OACF would be honored to have the Empire's official historian in its ranks. Please consider, we're not exactly like the War Church, we just support a good military to support our Colonial interests. The OACF does plan to work closely with the Church in our common cause.

P.S. If the blatant recruiting bothers anyone, please tell me!

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12625

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The president hereby declares his symphaty's for this progressive organization.As president ,i feel it's my democratic duty to not formaly join any non-gevermental organization ,just to show my objectiveness towards any idea presented to me.Though i concur that the general strategy we push onto our enemy should preferably be one of domination rather than isolationism and weakness.I thus will always be receptive toward's the recomondation's of this organization.

youre current president ,ducky (I)
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Originally posted by jumbo2002
Shouldn't this be: "Foreign Policy is merely a form of War!"

:rocket:

By the way, KD, I won't be joining your church...I'm going to promote a pragmatic approach to our military, but I will certainly be supporting a military much stronger than some peacenik would want.

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I think my quote is the correct one. It was by von Clautzwitz (spelling?). You know, that Prussian strategist supremo of the 19th century (?)?

As the puny Anti-War Coalition seemed to have been dissolved and had gone underground, we now hereby declare that the Holy War against these weaklings is at an End.

However, we will be Watching them ......

And to take the appropriate action as necessary as and when they rear up their ugly heads within our midst ....

how can the war church be legal while my anti-war coalition is not?

Besides, AoA, stop breaking the rules. Corn is our MODleasion, not you, its HIS job to close threads.

Originally posted by Pellaken
how can the war church be legal while my anti-war coalition is not?

Besides, AoA, stop breaking the rules. Corn is our MODleasion, not you, its HIS job to close threads.

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Simple; I am more likeable than you are. Sorry, couldn't resist.

But whereas my thread is meant to bring out the supposedly roleplaying aspects of our Democracy game and to make the game more 'alive', yours has degenerated into a personal account of how to play the game IMHO.

By haranguing AoA, you're not making yourself more popular with the mods ...... Just some 'friendly' advice fr your arch-nemesis. Mwahahaha!

KoE, As a committed pragmatist, I'm going to avoid affiliating with any policy organizations until we discover who we're up against. However, I do support attempts to sieze unclaimed territory as quickly as possible. However, I will tend to avoid colonizing territory on continents controlled by enemy empires, due to the risk of quickly losing our colonies. Instead, I would delay colonization and direct conflict, focusing instead on a military buildup, followed by a series of knockout blows. New settlements will only follow after the land has become cleared of threat.

KD, the von Clausewitz quote as you wrote it is more or less correct. (If I had brought the book home with me for winter break, I could find it exactly.) Anyway, the concept of "War being an extension of policy," (by my reading) actually restricts conflict to the extent of the political aims desired. For example, if the Zulu threat that needs to be neutralized is an island base just off our shore, we take care of the threat by eliminating the base - not by directly attacking their mainland.

The "reverse" line I included is, in a way, a reference to Machiavelli - who maintained that all life (and therefore politics) is war. Therefore, instead of war being an extension of seeking a political interest, political competition and foreign rivalries are mere subsets of eternal conflict.