What level is our earth playing at?

What level is our earth playing at?

  • Cheiftain

    Votes: 7 15.2%
  • Warlord

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Prince

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • King

    Votes: 4 8.7%
  • Emperor

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • Deity

    Votes: 24 52.2%

  • Total voters
    46

Kefka

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Just a simple question, If you would compare our earth to a Civ game, what level do you believe that we are playing at?
 
Deity,

Many of the world's problems (eg Israel/Palestine) are too complex that even the best Civ players couldn't do anything about them.

Don't think Unversal Suffrage would help much.
 
I'd say it's about 13,947 levels harder then deity. More or less.
 
I'm not sure I know how to answer the question. It seems to me that the paradigms of world affairs (today, anyway) are quite different from that of a CivII game, at least the way I play it. The biggest difference being that conquest and absorption of territory no longer occurs (more accurately, is not allowed to occur by consensus). Also diplomacy is far more complicated. The CivIII model might be better, but I haven't played that yet.

I enjoy CivII for what it is, a game, complete with its own assumptions--not mistaking it at all for how the world really functions though.... So I see this as an apples-and-oranges thing, really....
 
It is obviously prince/regent because the other civs don't get production bonuses...since regent is the default level playing field, that is the level the earth is! No cheating!
 
Originally posted by allan2
I'm not sure I know how to answer the question. It seems to me that the paradigms of world affairs (today, anyway) are quite different from that of a CivII game, at least the way I play it. The biggest difference being that conquest and absorption of territory no longer occurs (more accurately, is not allowed to occur by consensus). Also diplomacy is far more complicated. The CivIII model might be better, but I haven't played that yet.

I enjoy CivII for what it is, a game, complete with its own assumptions--not mistaking it at all for how the world really functions though.... So I see this as an apples-and-oranges thing, really....
Well thank you Mr. Obvious youv'e been a big help.

It is obviously prince/regent because the other civs don't get production bonuses...since regent is the default level playing field, that is the level the earth is! No cheating!
Ah you make some good points! I did not think of the bonuses! but you could also say that since every Civ is played by hummans and not the AI thats why there is no bonus even at the Deity level. So I still say Deity.
and how do you know that we are at the Defalt level?
 
you cant compare CivIII to the real world!!

but you could also say that since every Civ is played by hummans and not the AI thats why there is no bonus even at the Deity level.

theres no multiplayer in CivIII :lol:
 
"Well thank you Mr. Obvious youv'e been a big help."

As have you, Kefka. I was merely trying to explain why I find it difficult to vote in this poll (not that I care all that much though, but...), and did you try to clarify the poll question for me any, to help? Acknowledging these "obvious" differences of parameters and suggesting ways I could overcome them and formulate a meaningful answer? No, you just offered me THAT above.

Thanks. :rolleyes:
 
I broke it up into regional groups, now with explanations!

U.S. and NATO: Warlord
Major economic and political powers of the Western world are situated here. They don't have to play hard, but it's not all given to them.

Latin America: Regent
Eased up by a lot after the 1980's, still a lot of poverty and economic turmoil.

South America: Monarch
Columbia, Argentina, need I say more? Economic and military crises haven't stopped there.

Eastern Europe: Monarch
I'd say "Emporer" before 1989, but after the fall of Communism in Eastern Europe, things have gotten a little better (with the exception of Slobadon Melosevic...)

Middle East: Deity
Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, and Palestine versus Isreal. 4000 years of violence won't end in our lifetimes, sad to say.

North Africa: Monarch
Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia are pretty much the major economic powers of Africa, and they really don't seem all that unstable.

Mid-South Africa: Deity
Disease, tribal factions fighting for pieces of jungles out in the Democratic Free People's Socialist Universal Regional Republic formerly known as Prince.

Central Asia: Emporer
Touchy situations in Afghanistan, near war between Pakistan and India.

Northeast Asia: Regent
Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, thriving countries in the midst of a Far Eastern recession.

Southeast Asia: Monarch
Stabalizing Myanmar, "old school" Stalinist regimes in Laos and Cambodia.

Australia, NZ: Warlord
What did you expect for the Aussies? Deity? :lol:
 
Originally posted by G-Man
I'd say it's about 13,947 levels harder then deity. More or less.
No, at least 13,948 levels harder. :D I voted Diety, but I also see the reasoning behind the Regent vote...
 
Hey! We Aussies will kick your butts!

Hehe, yeah, know what you mean though... not like we got 350 million people to try and control/look after eh?

Morgasshk.
 
i think it started off with diety, and now has gone down a few notches.


The dudes back 4000 years ago were blood thirsty mutha f*ckers, conquering the world and the rest, a bit like the diety AI. Now we don't have those problems. Oh hold on, theres America and its 'war on terror'.
As for the Israel/Palestine conflict, i would hardly call that a huge problem IN A CIV GAME. Just one of them wars that go on for hundreds of years, but you don't really put much effort into them. The major civ problems that are happening at the moment, its just pollution, food etc, which happens on any level. No nasty AIs anymore, if it were diety, NZ would be conquered by america by now.
 
You're either advocating Gaia theory, that in some way the world is an entity of itself and controlling things as a game, or are suggesting that one civilisation are the "good guys" and have to compete against all others to win, which is a little too close to rmsharpe's thinking for my liking. If you take the US as the civ played, then you're on avery easy level recently, with huge production bonuses, but if you choose Bhutan or similar then you're playing at one of the harder than Deity levels where you're outproduced by almost everyone.
 
Deity!!

There are mean, treacherous players out there and no free bonuses for anybody. If you have happy people, your neighbour's gonna invade, if you have a good army, the people cry foul. There is just no rest for any ruler:rolleyes:
 
I voted chieftan. Most of the world's problems are fairly simple at their core but we're too irrational and divided to be able to properly analyze then solve them.

- Maj
 
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