Phoenatican National Park System

Should we build a national park system?

This would mean that special areas (like for example the "blue mountain national park", see link below) will be created where improovements of special kinds (polluting or just ugly) are not allowed.
Those areas will be denied any RR building except directly connecting cities, and the cities in the vincinity will not be allowed to build polluting buildings.
Also, national workers will clean up pollution (if any) in there first and with highest priority.

The acceptance of this proposal also include the founding of the "Phoenatican National Park Service", which will be in charge of allowing any worker action to be done in the park areas, for example. Details will be worked out by the domestic department, which is responsible for the PNPS.

The First park will be the "Blue mountain national park", but others will surely follow.

The poll is "Yes", "No" or "Abstain".

The poll will be up for 2 days.

The result of the poll will be binding, as this was set up on order of the domestic leader.

Related discussion:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27498

Blue Mountain National Park Proposed Map:

YES!

Being the newest citizen of Delphi, I say its a great idea to build a National Park system, spanning the length of the Blue Mountains. This should be able to attract more tourism and citizens to the Blue Mountain cities

Please, can I be the Park Ranger since I have nothing better to do.

You should apply in the domestic department thread ;-)

YES!Make a park!

I guess I have just as much right as anyone else here. I say that it is a good idea. I would like to see the outskirts of Heliopolis completely natural. I say it's a good tourist attraction for here and Delphi

I just don't like the idea of not being able to improve some terrain and possibly in turn, not allowing cities to grow and produce at thier full potential.

Do we really want to grow our cities unlimited on expense of our nature?

I say no!
We owe our next generations something. What will they say about us if their land is covered with red clouds of pollution? What if all tree are deforested? What if all natural wonders of our great country are gone?

They can look at pictures in the local museum.

But they cant smell and feel it there ;-)

Out technology is not too far away from that!!!

Using technology for that is not like real life! Give them the chance to experience real nature, no a scientific one!

Yes, but if the founders of this nation would have lived by that thought, of "leave nature alone so future generations can see it", we would have no nation now. Progress is what makes nations great, without it we will fall. If we don't keep up in production, we will fall.

The production will only be cut in the park areas. Nobody forces us to convert the whole nation into a park. And this is also not desirable. The parks should be something special, and therefor treated as such. It should also be a hard bargain for the nearby cities to have the park. The park will bring them good things and also disadvantages.

I believe the PNPS is a great and noble idea, akin to the Great and Small Wonders of the World Projects. A project of this nature isn't one to be attempted by any Nation. This is something for a world leader to establish. As we have dwarfed the other Nations of the world, we should now try to become one with Nature. We need to show respect to the earth that allowed us the privilige to expand and become the dominant Leader we are.

By creating these parks, we will not only be preserving the lands that capture the essence of natural beauty, we will have identified natural museums for our citizens to experience in our ever-growing amount of free time. I vote yes!

Doing so would be tantamount to a disrespect to the work of many men. Do you know what areas should fall under this, areas not in the 21 radius of a city. If you choose to implement this it will be at the cost of the citizens of the nearby cities. For they shall have fewer jobs, less to live off of, and therefore this will decrease their quality of life. Not only that, but implementing this will also decrease the powers of trade, military, science and culture. Trade by airports, military the same, science and culture by research laboratories. If you view that your pleasure in visiting these places is enough to warrant the expense of many people's joy and happiness, than you are either not thinking about them, and are thus not a good person, or you are thinking about them and thus are worse. In addition I believe that your ideas are far to damaging to be allowed. Therefore a different plan would be by far superior to this one, mearly allowing all present forests, jungles, etc, to exist freely wihtout being cut down. Adding in occasional no Railroad areas would not be too bad, but still harming to the residents. The no pollution buildings is terrible, and I vehemently oppose this, and if the Domestic department can implement this without agreeing with the other departments (culture, trade, military, science) it will be by far one of the greatest wrongdoings in Phoenatican history, putting the views of a view members with a very narrow world view over the will of Millions of others.

Not only are you doing that, you are also doing another thing, worsening the lives of every phoenatican in the world. How can 16 people decide the fate of roughly 2 billion, monstrous idea.

As the mayor of a city bordering the Blue Mountains National Park, I think we can live with some of these restrictions. I would not be for inclusion of city tiles unless the mayor and city residents agree and I am not for demolition of pre-existing improvements within the park borders unless it is approved by the citizenry.

However I can't agree with curufinwe's statement of being "shocked, shocked" at a handful of people deciding the fate of the nation, 'cause after all, that's what democracies do (through their elected leaders)

As an aside, I guess I am not surprised that Elephantine's Uranium Forest is outside the park boundaries.....

I never stated I was shocked, I said that I believed the idea to be monstrous, so please do not say things false (though you did not know) and potentially slanderous if they can be avoided by merely reading a few words. Thank you. And, tisn't the leaders making the choice, but 18 voters, of which but a few are elected officials, or perhaps most.

Originally posted by curufinwe
I never stated I was shocked, I said that I believed the idea to be monstrous, so please do not say things false (though you did not know) and potentially slanderous if they can be avoided by merely reading a few words. Thank you. And, tisn't the leaders making the choice, but 18 voters, of which but a few are elected officials, or perhaps most.

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This does deal with Heliopolis, so I do have the right.