Which Standard Should the Bank go on

Which Standard Should We Use?

  • Standard 1

    Votes: 10 50.0%

  • Standard 2

    Votes: 8 40.0%

  • Abstain

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • Total voters
    20
Stuck_as_a_Mac

Stuck_as_a_Mac

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There are two standards up for consideration for the RPG. As head banker, I need to know which one do the people want. First, we have Standard One:
position gpt
president 50
vice president 40
leader 30
deputy leader 20
governor 15 + free house in their capitol centre
mayor 10 + free house in their city centre
other official 10
Base: 5

This means that things would be more expensive, yet you could earn more.

Standard Two:
All citizens get 5 GPT each poistion that they have add's on to the GPT.

+4 for Leader and Vice Pres

+5 for President

+3 for Deputies and govonors

+2 for non-goverment poistions(IE: Citizen regisry, Citizen Honors)

+2 for Honored Citizens

+1 for mayors and other low goverment poistions

Which to use
 
i think mayors are no lower positions....
and adding income for each position will encourage ppl to get many positions in 1 person, which is contraproductive if we want to involve more ppl.
so option one is my choice
 
My vote goes to the idea I helped to make.. Standard two.

I think that if the citizens don't want people to hold multi-poistions they wouldn't vote for that person in both poistions. The Citizens has more power then they think yet they don't use it.
 
strider: what about self-declared positions?
most of the officials (mayors, census, honor office etc.) are self-nominated and mostly self-created positions.
we will have to take care of ppl who grab many positions. it would be possible for someone to declare 10 new positions and hold them just to gain money.
 
i agree with Disorganizer this could end up with people jus getting jobs for the sake of earning the money and the people who actually tried to earn there position not getting as much plus the president cant really have multiple jobs as she or he would be busy with the whole demogame
 
I already thought of that.... The RPG rules are still in the making, but their was already a rule about this:

"All poistions will be eximined and accepted before that player gets any money from running an office of an kind."

Still needs to be made more "fancy", but it's already their.
 
I really don't like standard 1. It makes a huge income gap that has a tendoncy to really hurt nations in RL. I'm not to clear on some aspects of the demo game, but it could also hurt our nation here. But the leader making 10 times more than the commoner seems a little excessive. Standard 2 keeps income a little closer and the people closer to equal, so I voted for it. We're not careful, we'll end up with all out class warfare!:eek:
 
I agree with Myartar here, I like Standard 1 (getting paid for highest position), but not the huge differences between the wages.
 
Ohterwise, what's to stop a governor from appointing himself mayor of every city in his province... come to think of it.... nah
I like the form of standard 1 AND the big wage differences. It is unthinkable that a leader or president would not have the best of everything!!!!
In the event we work with standard 2, I see two ways it could be policed. Firstly by an independant body that looks into every position of every official, or have provincial governors and leaders authorise certain people to be paid for certain positions. It would be their responsibility to make sure the jobs were dane. This cuts down on the work the demogame RPG organisers have to do!!
 
On reflection, standard one is alot more fair, especially to the pres, leaders and governors. These positions entail heaps of work to do them well, whereas smaller positions require very little work. It would be much easier to be mayor of three cities than Governor of a province!! Standard 2 effectively penalises people for doing their job well, what I mean is, if you put alot of work into being governor or a leader, you can't hold very many other positions. But if you do a half-assed job on alot of things, then you could get paid more than the person doing thier job well!! Sure, Chieftess could get a dozen extra low government positions, but would we want to encourage that??? Standard two encourages people not to work hard on the positions they have!!
 
what we could do is we could build up county-mayors instead of city mayors.
lets say 3-5 cities are a county, and 3-5 countys are a province. This will lead to less governors, but much more involved ppl.
 
I'm abstaining. I like the system in proposal 1 much more than #2 but the salary disparities are too large. Make deputy leaders and governors earn the same salary then go up 5g for the higher levels. This still leaves a pretty large gap but it's a bit more reasonable. Remember that there are no common citizens here. Everybody playing is at least a Congressman. The Pres doesn't make 50x what a congressman does. Also, each person should only draw one salary - whichever is the highest office held - so job grabbing isn't encouraged.

president 30
vice president 25
leader 20
deputy leader 15
governor 15 + free house in their capitol centre
mayor 10 + free house in their city centre
other official 10
Base: 5

EDIT: The Pres doesn't make 50x what a Congressman makes in Proposal one. It is 10x (50 compared to 5). The revamped scale I suggested reduces this disparity to 6x (30 compared to 5).
 
the congressman salary is 5 gpt :-P

but this raises another question:
should congressmen be paid if they dont attend the meetings (=chats+votes)?
before this develops into a philosophical discussion:
the 5gpt base salary is to be seen as congressman salary.
the other officials point is the point for "special officials", excluding congressmen.
 
I agree with Shaitan that you should be paid for the highest office you hold, not cumulative for all offices. That being said, I think Standard 2 is fairer and is a good construct to build on.
 
Standard 2 pais for all offices you hold.
So maybe a mix would be best:
standard 2 with only the highest office payed, and maybe a bit more money for the mayors?

i would say: +2 for all low-official (mayors, census, honours office)
and +1 for honoured citizens (why pay them? they got honours!)

but only the highest position is payed.
 
How's this sound:

10 for President
9 for Leader and Vice Pres
8 for Deputies and govenors
6 for appointed positions (Citizen regisry, Citizen Honors, mayors, etc.)
5 for Congressman (base)

+1 for Honored Citizens

+1 raise per term (elected positions)

Paid for highest position only. Honored citizens get a little bonus but only once (that is, if you hold two honors you don't get +1 for each). Raises go into effect when you are re-elected for the same position. More experience earns more cash.
 
wat about this?
Take the first system proposed by Shatain. Put the base of 5 on it. Then add the system Im about to say now:
Take the top paying job you can get. Add +4 if you are also a governor, +5 if you are also a deputy leader, +3 if you are also a mayor and +2 if you hold a position not named here.
Example: If i win the election for Province 11 (vote for me, please!) I would have a base pay of 20. Then I would add 9 (Mayor, Head of R&D, Asphinxia, Head Banker, Devolper of National Bank). My total would be 29gpt. See?
 
Then no one will want to do anything ;). Anyway it's at 8-8-1 right now.

Stuck when does the poll close?
 
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