Anyone ever seen the AI do a 1st strike?

From what I've gathered the AI seems to be hesitant to use Nukes, not in this case. India had one tactical and used it on me, I haven't even built a Nuke yet.

I think them Indians are probably desperate since your forces seem about ready to swallow them whole. You're blue, right?

I have seen AI use Nuke many times. What I cannot accept is they seems to like to nuke their own city that were captured by you?

Well you have to punish the people that surrendered to the enemy right?

If Texas surrenderd to Mexico don't doubt for a second that dallas and houston would not be growing mushroom clouds...

Especially if it could stem the thrust into our nation's unprotected interior. Just kidding of course - our most powerful defense to invasion by mexico is rednecks, beer, and shotguns... After awaking from thier drunken stupour - there would be some flippin going on...


But seriously... even though we talk about tactical nukes being defensive weapons - it is extremely unlikely that they would be used in defense in the manner used in the game... its the THREAT of use that is suppossed to prevent attack...

ONce you have been attacked you have to follow through and attack thier most treasured city...

The only time I would like to see nukes used within our culture borders would be when the enemy units are between cities... but i still think that it would be more valuable to nuke in preparation to a counter attack(no matter how feeble) - complete with a razing.

Too bad nukes used in defense couldn't automatically trigger peace demands from certain govt types...

It would be nice if the ai kept track of the cities that they created and when one is lost - the retribution would take place against one of the enemies original cities(or the highest culture city within range that is least likely to flip).

Originally posted by Dark Sheer
I have seen AI use Nuke many times. What I cannot accept is they seems to like to nuke their own city that were captured by you?

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Yeah!!! I've seen that too!! the ultimate joke about it is that there was a tank and a mech in the city so the AI actually spent more shields than it destroyed When I nuke, I make sure there are at least 50 units in the area and I NEVER nuke cities, let alone the ones that have been taken over by the AI...

and look at this, I go further into India and I see some Indian cities that mysteriously look like they suffered a nuclear strike. Do you think one of my AI allies hit India with some Nukes? And I remember seeing a thread on here about how the AI never fights each other...

I was just talking to a friend about how I have never seen an AI first strike, nor an inter-AI nuclear exchange.

Man, you sure added a lot of extra hit points to those units

Great thread - something I missed before - I LOVE it when there are horse based troops in a nuclear war theater

Too answer Knight-Dragons question, yes I'm blue. ANd your right Craterus, I have archers coming out and attacking my Modern armor, this is about the time of the game I get bored and start another one I think I'll play this one out to see if I get a domination victory or not.

Originally posted by Sobieski II
I was just talking to a friend about how I have never seen an AI first strike, nor an inter-AI nuclear exchange.

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We Don't see those things because they happen "behind the scenes" that's why I wish there was a wonder that allowed you to see what your allies are doing.

to see what ur allies were doing?!?!?! is called a super expensive troop map taht u can get w/ a spy, but if such wonder existed, teh turns would take moooooore time since u would have to see evey senseless AI movement like workers and such

I wouldn't mind if it would give a list of cities taken (and by whom) as well as cities nuked each turn from the intelligence agency. Neither pop-up would come up if no one lost a city or had a city nuked.

yeah we don't have to see every move, just the major city takeovers and nuke strikes

Im playing a game where I was the Babylonians and the Persians were on one side with germany on another and russians/french on the other side. I spent the whoe game appeasing the Persians untill I had enough nukes/tanks. I knew I had enough due to reloading.... In any case, I had about 30 icbm's and the Persians declared war and started to nuke me. I responded with nukes. My nukes got through at a rate of about 1 in 6 where his seem to go though at a rate of about 1 in 4.

On the topic of nukes, I sent most of my nukes to his capitol. I also double nuked it which took out both the roads and airport. This cut his civ off from all resources.

The other incident where I used nukes was when he sent 30 or so modern armor into my territory. My border had expanded to the point where he could not enter and attack in the same turn. So, I nuked my own territory. I dropped 2 taticals. It created a no mans zone 3 tiles wide by 6 tiles long.

I would have been hard pressed to take out all the modern armor If I did not have those taticals on hand.

I also use taticals to take out 3+ battleships that are in range.

PS I think the ai wont nuke you if you have nukes/he has nukes and he does not have sdi. The comp seems to lose fear once they have sdi though.

Originally posted by Dark Sheer
I have seen AI use Nuke many times. What I cannot accept is they seems to like to nuke their own city that were captured by you?

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I thought I read somewhere that if you don't strike with nukes, then they don't do either. But if you start to go nuclear, the whole world declares war on you and ignites its arsonal of nukes.

Sabo10, what did you do in that game? Is that a scanario with high aggression for every civ? Or is it a higher level? I play on Chieflain and with normal settings and never see a nuke used.

No this was an honest to goodness 1st strike by the AI, I'm playing the game just out of the box, the only thing I have done is edited hit points and rate of fire for artillery. I'm playing Regent. I checked the Military advisor a turn or two before India hit me and India had ONE tactical Nuke and that's it, they used that Nuke on my in Bangalore. As you can see by my Science Queue I was one turn away from Nuclear power. After India hit me then Persia declared war on India and hit them with some ICBM's, I didn't see this exchange of missles of course but if you look at the second screenshot, all of India's cities look like they took a nuclear strike, and Persia was the only other country with Nukes

I always figured Gandhi to be one to unleash nuclear Armageddon.

Hmm it`s only worth nuking cities that are very heavily defended and it would take a long time and most of your units to take it with conventional weapons. Nukes clever used can turn the tables of a war immediately and you can get rid of an enemy even bigger than you in no time.

Maybe the Indians nuked you because they were terrified of your massive elite-plus multi-hit point tanks?

I wonder if they could speed up the AI moves to very fast speed so you could watch them all but they would get it over with real quick. Then they could make a wonder - satellites! - that would let you watch the world.