Discussion: Aztec War Plans

GenMarshall · Oct 11, 2002

I have drawn up a battle plan that would be a success.
The plan is,

1. attack the Aztec city

2. Temporarly Fortify a Swordsmen and an archer in the city untill a spearmen is built

3. Send any injured units into that city (or nearest captured) city to heal

4. Once all the units have been healed and a spearmen is build proceed to the next city.

5. Regroup the army near a targeted city (Unfortifying the temoprary Garrison in the captured city and sending the fully healed unit back with the army)

6. Repeat from step 1.

See the New Plans, Fanatikan Department of Defense for more information. The revision on this is easy, since all I have to do is rearange the order

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donsig · Oct 11, 2002

We should concentrate our archers immediately and march on the Aztec capital! We have already lost a few turns by not doing this earlier. The battle will go to the swiftest!

Bill_in_PDX · Oct 11, 2002

We must strike quickly and achieve dominance by taking out their capital.

On this level, the Aztec's will be recruiting other nations to come to their aid once war begins. We must decisively beat them early, thus ensuring that anyone who wants to meddle in this affair will likely be looking for Aztec scraps.

GenMarshall · Oct 11, 2002

Ok, It looks like everyone wnats to attack the captital. Then it will be settled, Once the capital has been captured, we can then rush build a barrack and use there capital as base of operaitons and a medical station in one. We would be striking the Aztecs from the inside out. We can also build a spearmen to fortify and defend that city and then build archers in that city. the army would be split into a team of 2 Swordsmen and 1 Archer and fan out and attack the cities.

Strider · Oct 12, 2002

Originally posted by CivGeneral
Ok, It looks like everyone wnats to attack the captital. Then it will be settled, Once the capital has been captured, we can then rush build a barrack and use there capital as base of operaitons and a medical station in one. We would be striking the Aztecs from the inside out. We can also build a spearmen to fortify and defend that city and then build archers in that city. the army would be split into a team of 2 Swordsmen and 1 Archer and fan out and attack the cities.

I believe we should attack the capital first. Rush build a spearman(or 2 depends upon the sitution) then splits are forces in half (we can split them swordsmen in one group and archers in the other or evenly throughout). If we do split them in half and attack differant cities we can get the war over quicker. Also sense where attacking from two differant area's it splits the Aztec forces up.

I would also suggest building a spearmen in one of are current cities and using him for defense in the first taken city, but that seems almost impossible.

Chieftess · Oct 12, 2002

Originally posted by Strider

I believe we should attack the capital first. Rush build a spearman(or 2 depends upon the sitution) ...

POP RUSHING!?!? :eek:

Not again!

Trying to build a spearman in those cities would take 15-20 turns because of the corruption. We could take one from our city, though. I don't like depleting our forces - and I usually go for the capital last.

Strider · Oct 12, 2002

Originally posted by Chieftess

POP RUSHING!?!? Not again!

Trying to build a spearman in those cities would take 15-20 turns because of the corruption. We could take one from our city, though. I don't like depleting our forces - and I usually go for the capital last.

I usually just take them in how close they are to my forces. I just said that because it seemed to be everyone's else's opinion.

Octavian X · Oct 12, 2002

We should also keep in mind the diplomatic side of war.

Do we attmept to recieve the help of other nations in our righteous crusade against the evil of Montezuma? If we seek out military alliances, with whom do we make them?

Strider · Oct 12, 2002

Originally posted by Octavian X
We should also keep in mind the diplomatic side of war.

Do we attmept to recieve the help of other nations in our righteous crusade against the evil of Montezuma? If we seek out military alliances, with whom do we make them?

I don't think military alliance's will help... We want all of the aztec cities to ourselves & the other nations might be to far away to help in the first place. We do need to come up with ways to keep other nations out of the war. Here's my suggestion:

If we attack quick taking 2 or 3 cities before they have a chance to get an alliance the chance of someone allieing with them is low. Normally when an AI see's that somebody is losing the war it is more costly to get that person to join the war with them. If we can strike quick are worry's will be over quickly

Chieftess · Oct 12, 2002

Alliences might sway other nations NOT to declare war on us. We only have 3 cities, and it's 1450BC! We need to expand, and FAST after this war is over!

Strider · Oct 12, 2002

Originally posted by Chieftess
Alliences might sway other nations NOT to declare war on us. We only have 3 cities, and it's 1450BC! We need to expand, and FAST after this war is over!

But like I said before if we do have alliances the other nations may take the aztec cities.... which might slow are expansion. Also getting alliances are very costly. I would think that we might be able to get 1 at the max.

GenMarshall · Oct 12, 2002

Originally posted by Chieftess
Alliences might sway other nations NOT to declare war on us. We only have 3 cities, and it's 1450BC! We need to expand, and FAST after this war is over!

I would have to agree with Cheftess, we defenatly need this war to be as fast as possible and strike clame to the lands as quckly as possible, especaly the land bridge. BTW, we can have the captured capital rush build a barracks and a spearmen. True that alliances may sway nation not to declare war on us, but we also must remember that the AI civs can sometimes become backstabers.

Orriginaly posted by Cheftess
...and I usually go for the capital last.

I usualy go for the capital first, unless it is too strong. Since we dont have any seige equiptment to "soften" up the defenses we should attack the capital before they place in more defenders.

Orriginaly posted by Strider
I believe we should attack the capital first. Rush build a spearman(or 2 depends upon the sitution) then splits are forces in half (we can split them swordsmen in one group and archers in the other or evenly throughout). If we do split them in half and attack differant cities we can get the war over quicker. Also sense where attacking from two differant area's it splits the Aztec forces up.

I would also suggest building a spearmen in one of are current cities and using him for defense in the first taken city, but that seems almost impossible.

I would also agree on building a spearmen in our own cities, but the downfall is that we would be keeping our armies in the occupied city untill the spearmen comes and that would drag the war even longer. I would also agree on faning out our army once we capture and defend the Aztec captured capital with a spearmen

. This would defantly would make Monty's head spin :lol:

Strider · Oct 12, 2002

Yeah.... A tatic that I use alot:

1) Split forces up into 6(attack) differant teams. Each team has about 4 attackers and 2 defenders. Heal up and leave on defender their to protect it. After that the move on. With 6 differant of these groups it gets the war over very quickly (but it takes alot of preparation). Of course in are case we can't do it, but it's here for later use if we need it

Eklektikos · Oct 12, 2002

Originally posted by Chieftess
Alliences might sway other nations NOT to declare war on us. We only have 3 cities, and it's 1450BC! We need to expand, and FAST after this war is over!

Alliances would also lock us into a 20 turn war, or into the eradication of the Aztecs. The alternative being the ruination of relations with our erstwhile allies and a very major rep hit. I therefore oppose the signing of any alliances in this war.

Grandmaster · Oct 12, 2002

If we aren't going to completely destroy the Aztecs, alliances are a bad idea. If we get other nations into the fray, we HAVE to finish the job or else make them not like us much. Plus, if we can turn the odds in our favor quickly alliances will be too expensive for the Aztecs to get and we won't have to worry.

Bill_in_PDX · Oct 12, 2002

Exactly, a crippling assault on the Aztecs will prevent them from bringing in allies.

Octavian X · Oct 12, 2002

Then, we should also plan when, how, and what we should strike.

Do we attack as soon as the strike force is assembled? Or do we wait?

Do we divide the force into multiple stacks, or keep it as a single grand army?

Which city, or cities do we strike first?

FortyJ · Oct 13, 2002

I had proposed this plan of attack earlier and I still think it's a viable option worthy of consideration. It positions our troops in advantageous locations while awaiting the arrival of the bulk of our Swordsmen force.

It calls for splitting our forces into three divisions which will converge on the Aztec capitol from the North, East, and West.

Proposed Plan of Attack - For Fanatikan Eyes Only

GenMarshall · Oct 16, 2002

During the turn chats there was a discussion about wether or not to attack the Aztec Capital. Cheftess suggested we take Tlaxcala, while most people would want to take the capital.

Here is the suggestion I have came up with. Have our army go to Tlaxcala and capture it and then proceed to the capital. Once we have captured Tlaxcala we can then build a spearmen and leave one swordsmen to fortify the city.

Octavian X · Oct 16, 2002

As long as keep the units as a single stack, I approve.

New forces manufactured during the war need to focus on that horse city.

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