Population Rushing In Which Circumstances?

Bill_in_PDX · Oct 19, 2002

In this poll http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=549892#post549892 , the citizens of Fanatika gave their conditional approval for Population rushing.

The purpose of this discussion thread is to narrow down the conditions underwhich this tactic can occur.

Some ideas:

1) only in cities that are capture
2) for use in rushing temples in captured cities
3) when enemy offensive forces are in striking range of a city

Please add and discuss

Cyc · Oct 19, 2002

Of the three ideas, if I have to choose, I would say #3. It may be better to rush a unit than lose the city.

Stuck_as_a_Mac · Oct 19, 2002

i agree with two and three. if we have a city under pressure from surrounding forces, pop rush a unit. and if we are in risk of c flipping, pop rush something culturaly. of course, our highest goal is a democracy (i assume), so then we dont have to worry about pop rushing

Eklektikos · Oct 19, 2002

#2 & #3 are the options I favour, when the other option is to risk losing the city altogether.

Octavian X · Oct 19, 2002

The second and third options, I agree, are the best choices for us.

Bill_in_PDX · Oct 19, 2002

Feel free to post other options, I was merely posting initial examples ;-)

Octavian X · Oct 19, 2002

I still would have said those two things...

Plexus · Oct 19, 2002

i like all three options, until conscription comes along, we may need #3.

Bill_in_PDX · Oct 20, 2002

There seems to be a lot of sentiment for options 2 and 3.

Any other input on this topic before I post a proposed poll?

donsig · Oct 20, 2002

How about never?

Bill_in_PDX · Oct 20, 2002

Originally posted by donsig
How about never?

Never would be my choice as well, but we lost that poll. The winner was "in emergencies", and I am trying to define emergencies as narrowly as possible.

We know what eyrei's definition of Pop Rush emergency is...any time he is running low on Pepsi...

donsig · Oct 20, 2002

Then #2 should only be done if there is a great danger of the city flipping and we are in no position to recapture it quickly. #3 only if we're in serious danger of irretreiveable losing the city and then only for defenseive units.

Cyc · Oct 20, 2002

Of course. I concur with Donsig.

eyrei · Oct 20, 2002

Originally posted by Bill_in_PDX

Never would be my choice as well, but we lost that poll. The winner was "in emergencies", and I am trying to define emergencies as narrowly as possible.

We know what eyrei's definition of Pop Rush emergency is...any time he is running low on Pepsi...

Actually, it is when I am running low on beer...

More seriously, I suppose we can be absurdly nice to our enemies, but it doesn't gain us anything. In all likelihood, the single pop-rush we do will be nothing compared to the numerous ones the AI does when it is losing a war. A temple or library will expand the cultural borders and diminish one of the largest factors in culture flipping, increase the number of roads our units can use, and fill in the gaps before the horder of AI settlers from across the world gets there.

chiefpaco · Oct 21, 2002

I think pop rushing is ok on libraries too...

3 should hopefully never happen. 2 seems like a good idea but I wouldn't hold it to just "captured' cities.

eyrei · Oct 21, 2002

Originally posted by chiefpaco
I think pop rushing is ok on libraries too...

3 should hopefully never happen. 2 seems like a good idea but I wouldn't hold it to just "captured' cities.

Welcome back, Chiefpaco!!

Bill_in_PDX · Oct 21, 2002

A question to all here.

How should we resolve this. Should I come up with a bunch of Y/N/A polls for each individual circumstance, or a multiple choice with all the options discussed so far.

But if we do multi-choice, what is the hurdle for approval of a given option?

I am looking for suggestions before I go into about 10 new polls.

Bill

Cyc · Oct 21, 2002

I would say the Y/N/A format would probably be your best shot. The three ideas you posted up above seem to be the key areas. No one has submitted others? Do you have 7 more?

Bill_in_PDX · Oct 21, 2002

Well, there are combinations that involve what could actually be rushed....such as temples, libraries, etc...

Justus II · Oct 21, 2002

I vote for options 2 and 3, since we are limited to emergencies. What we are really trying to do is define emergencies, so create a poll with "Emergency" defined as 2 only, 3 only, both 2 and 3, or "other, repoll".

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