New Tech Trades - 670AD (after first trade)

Here are 2 that I found if we want to get gunpowder and astronomy. Just to note, it's 28-38gpt for 1 tech alone! We're essentiall getting 1/2 off by selling a tech that everyone might have 1 turn from now, and getting 2 for the price of 1 in the process.


Iroquois: Astro + Gunpowder for: Banking, 36gpt, 283 gold (of course, the gold/gpt can be adjusted.

Zulus: Astro + Gunpowder for: Banking, Furs, wm, 27gpt, 435g upfront

or: We can do a 1-for-1 deal with each civ (which seems to be the safer bet - we don't lose as much in the process,

Iroquois:
We give banking in exchange for 2g, and either Astronomy or Gunpowder. (I recommend Astronomy from the Iroquois).

Zulus:
We give banking in exchange for Gunpowder.
They will not give us Astronomy as easily.

These are interesting deals. I'd rather pay as much upfront as possible, since a higher gpt will mean we can earn our money back faster. The Zulu deal, being cheaper, looks best to me, though I would, again, adjust the monetary amounts for the lowest gpt possible.

*eh em* - there's a 2nd set of possible deals, too.

The second set of trades is a no-brainer. Somebody poll this quickly so that we can get it done in time for the chat.

We essentially will be getting these three techs (Banking, Astronomy, & Gunpowder) for the original purchase price of 22gpt and approx 300g. Much cheaper than it would have cost us to research it ourselves.

I think we should do the one for one's. Good post CT.

No one else? So, we stopped a chat so almost no one could discuss the next trade?...

I would go with the 1 one 1 trade

Originally posted by Chieftess
No one else? So, we stopped a chat so almost no one could discuss the next trade?...

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Well, the trouble is CT, that we don't have all the information. What we should do is trade banking to the Zulus for gunpowder then take a look at things to see if anyone has chemistry and if so, how much it would cost us. Chemistry will be expensive for sure but it is on the way to military tradition (our current long term goal) and we might be willing to pay the price to get it now. I suggested right after the chat that we allow the President to make a trade for gunpowder so we could see the new picture but no one liked the idea.

I like the 1 for 1 trades. The others involve GPT and G, which I personally dont feel like spending.

Originally posted by donsig


Well, the trouble is CT, that we don't have all the information. What we should do is trade banking to the Zulus for gunpowder then take a look at things to see if anyone has chemistry and if so, how much it would cost us. Chemistry will be expensive for sure but it is on the way to military tradition (our current long term goal) and we might be willing to pay the price to get it now. I suggested right after the chat that we allow the President to make a trade for gunpowder so we could see the new picture but no one liked the idea.

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In the chat, it sounded to me like you wanted to do one of the trades right away before seeing the other one... Besides, eyrei wanted me to stop the chat because of the allience debates...

As suspected though, there is little to no debate on either topic.

On a side note, there have been a few hundred posts in the RPG thread since the last turn chat.

We really should at least poll this now...

I think that two quick polls are up.

One Poll

The Other

Come on, only one more vote for each one to reach quorum!

Originally posted by Chieftess

In the chat, it sounded to me like you wanted to do one of the trades right away before seeing the other one... Besides, eyrei wanted me to stop the chat because of the allience debates...

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Well CT, I don't know what to say. First of all I thought Eklektikos was the DP at the last chat. Second, I thought the chat was stopped right after the purchase of banking. I certainly saw no reason to stop the chat at that point. Once the spot vote to buy banking was complete I left my desk for a few minutes. Had I known the chat would have been stopped I would have made a plea for the gunpowder trade to be done right away. Once the chat was declared over I couldn't do that.
As for the alliance debates, the Chinese alliance still has 4 turns remaining on it so that was not a chat stopping issue at that point.

There's nothing wrong with these two trades as far as I can see. What I've been trying to point out is that I can't see very far. Yes, I have my glasses on. But once we have gunpowder we will be able to check in with all the other civs to see if any of 'em have chemistry. Since chemistry will take us one step closer to military tradition I think it would be worth discussing whether to buy it if it is available. Since we can't make the gunpowder trade and then post a new save we'll either a) have to make the decision about chemistry in the chat or b) ignore the fact that chemistry may be available. Neither option makes me warm and fuzzy.