Peace Renegotiation - Strategic Planning

Recently, I read about peace renegotiations to get techs (and other things) cheaper (in the Strategies & Tips forum. Aren't you glad I'm a Civ3 Forum Moderator? ). Now, if I read this correctly... then it's an O'Glorious Loophole.

The demogame constitutition states:

• It is unlawful to play through actions, move troops, make deals or take any other action that would change the state of the playing game from that of the saved game.
  • Exception: The structure of --> peace renegotiation treaties <-- requires an action to be taken to view the bargaining possibilities. Specifically, once the deal is broached it must result in a new deal or a declaration of war. Once the bargaining possibilities have been noted the altered game must be immediately closed without saving. Further activity in the altered game is not allowed.

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It seems we CAN renegotiate peace, even when we're not in a war, to see what's on the bargaining table. I'm not sure how this affects current treaties (I did a test in some of my own games, and they seem to stay), But, you "politely extort" civs while making them happier. (I guess they know they won't be annihilated in 20 turns. ) It's best if you do it when you first meet a civ (Important note for our next demogame!), but you can renegotiate at any time.

Here's an example:

I started a new game as Japan. (The screenshots are self explanitory)


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I'm not sure if we can renegotiate to check for trades just like normal trades, but I think that's what the constitution is saying... (I could be wrong, though)

If this is what the constitution says then I think we should make use of this possibility. Or, if we do not want to use it, then we should update the laws or the constitution to reflect this.

But I think that we should make this perfectly clear before anyone starts to use this technic on the Demogame.

Yes, that exception was put in there specifically to allow this. I used it frequently in DG1.

And you didn't tell us?

(not that I remember reading about it)...

Yup, I've mentioned it a couple times here and there this game. It also came up at SAAM's PI.

ok, so I think it's a good idea.

I beleve as a Trade Deputy, go ahead and use this idea .

Yes, this ian effective and EXCELLENT way to gain much needed advances and gold. maybe a plan-A variant could work with more GPT being generated?