New Unit: F86 Sabre

Let me be the first to congratulate you... great work!
What do you think the stats should be?
What should you get it with?
 
Sweet looking unit! Didn't know you were working on it so a nice surprise for the weekend. My only gripe would be the US markings on it. Makes it kind of hard to use for another civ. Although, they are pretty indistinguishable in the ingame preivew. Thanks for the hard work!
 
The TMT - to be honest, I haven´t thought of units stats yet, I just wanted to get the unit done. But I think they should be somewhere between the Civ3 fighter (Attack 4 Defense 2) and jetfighter (Attack 8 Defense 4), eg. Att 6/Def 3 would be ok IMO (unless you´ll edit those civ3 units too)...;)

Prussian - yes, in the preview thread I said the same, however, some people wanted those symbols. But the "USAF" letters are only in the pedia pic, and the symbol is hard to see in-game.
 
Thanks bebro!
I love your fighters.

I'm going to put this one at advanced flight, moving civ3 jet fighters foward to space flight, though that might change.

The thing is getting the game to the point where you can use these new units...
 
Originally posted by Prussian
... My only gripe would be the US markings on it. Makes it kind of hard to use for another civ. Although, they are pretty indistinguishable in the ingame preivew. Thanks for the hard work!

In the Preview thread BeBro showed the Mig 15 that he is working on as well. I think that would probably be good as the generic early jet.
 
Coincidence?!

I saw a program last night on the mig 15, An exelent jet, during the korean war... I was thinking of doing one sometime (planes are just so nice and quick and easy!) Anyway, I don't have to now, as this is an exelent unit.

In the program the 2 jets were just about equal in design; the mig15 had aprox the same speed but had a better rete of climb (slightly higher intercep and evasion values) and higher caliber cannons (better bombard rating). Overall I would prefer to be in a mig15- though the americans claimed (as they always do) to have had a 10 -1 kill ratio over the russians (10 mig 15s downed for every 1 sabre).
 
Those wacky Americans! :D

The big advantage was that we weren't fighting Russian pilots.
 
Interesting...I had no idea. I haven't yet got to the Korean War in my endless pursuit of total historical awareness.

An off-topic comment - How can so many people go through their entire lives with such limited knowledge about history and geography? It's sad, is what it is.
 
AWESOME BEBRO, I LOVE UR UNITS, i also love the way u preview them, THANKS ALOT
 
Yes most definetly.

Now I need some advice on where this should go.
I'm thinking of adding early jets to advanced flight, and keeping them for just a few civs. Basically, the me-262 (bit of a historical squeeze, but it looks cool) the mig 15 and the f-86.

To allow these units more time to shine, I'm thinkign of moving civ3 jet fighters along one in the tech tree, I think its space flight.

The Current civ3 mig will still come at rocketry, as will the f-15, but only for the russians and the americans.
I'm hoping Bebro will do me a Red star-less mig, to give to other civs as the default fighter.
This default fighter, with hopefully a default f-86 will be less effective than the civ-specific late jet fighter,
More modern jets will come in with later techs, like the tornado and f-14

I haven't implemented this yet, but I want to know what you think, and which civs should get migs instead of jets, and which should get sabres instead of jets

phew....that was a complex one.
 
I know these came after WWII, but might it also be appropriate to give the Germans the ME262 at the same time that you give the American's and their Allies the Saber and the Soviets and their Allies the Mig-15?

What do you guys think?
 
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