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I am trying to control production in my city. I am trying to delay the production of a new palace until I discover Monarcy so that I can convert to the wonder but my city automatically reverts to maximum production no matter what I do each turn. I try starving, controlling the govenor, nothing works. I am playing monarch level on a huge map with despotism. I just have to delay production for three turns.

any experts out there?????

Originally posted by geno
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Turn off the city governor, then set everyone to be an entertainer (Edit: or taxman or scientist). That should reduce your shields to one. Of course, this will also result in starvation. You may be able to compromise and have a few citizens working high-food tiles and still attain your goal.

How do you turn off the governor? I set everything to NO and it did not work. after starving one turn the city jumps back to full production again the next.

Look in the preferences, there should be an option there. Also, it may be in the FAQ/newbie threads.

click on a city on the map and 'contact govorner' - from there you can turn the bozo off.

Actually, I have looked everywhere for this answer, because I hate the city governors.

I have not seen it in the preferences. I do not see it on the governor screen. I searched the forums and waded through about 40 threads, but found nothing that specifically addressed it.

The FAQ says "right-click on city and select contact governor to change options." Yeah, okay, got it - but what OPTIONS turn the idiot OFF?? No settings I have tried seem to do the trick.

I have searched the forums and not found the answer. Pretend I'm very stupid. Explain it to me, specifically and in detail. How can I turn the governor completely off so he changes nothing ?

FYI, I am running vanilla Civ III patched to 1.21g on a Macintosh. Geno, you may want to post your info in case it's different for the different patches or ports.

(After we get the answer, may I suggest that it be put in the FAQ or newbie questions thread?)

To turn off the governor, just say no to everything, set to all cities in the right hand box for each one, then tick the 'default for new cities' box.

AFAIK, this will turn off the governor in all cities and set there to be no governor in all new cities.

@geno:
When a city starves, the computer puts all the citizens to work the tiles. This is done after the food/production calculations from the last turn, so you will not have collected any food or shields apart from the default 2 food and 1 shield from the city tile. If you want to limit production again, just take the workers off the tiles again.

In relation to your example, the governor is off, the AI just set the citizens to work the tiles when you starve.

I am not sure why you are building the palace though? Have you already built the Forbidden Palace and can not move the Palace with a Great Leader?

Heike: contact the governor, set things to no, save the game, exit PTW/Civ3, restart it, load the game. THis should help.

I'll try that when I get home, Killer, thanks. Setting everything to No or Never didn't seem to help, I would still discover that my citizens had been moved to work different squares, but I had never tried saving and reloading the game. Isn't that verboten if you're playing a GOTM, SG, etc.?

Maybe I should be more specific about the situation; maybe they can't be turned off completely? In the situation that frustrated me the most, I was racing to a wonder. The city granary had like 16 food in it, and by moving one citizen from mined grassland to a mined gold hill I would get the wonder several turns earlier but cause a food shortage of one per turn. However, the wonder would be completed in less than 16 turns, so I figured that I would not have starvation until after the wonder was built, and I would then adjust production anyway. BUT, every single turn the citizen kept being put from the hill back to the grassland no matter what I told the #@$@#%ing governor. (Can we suggest to Firaxis that there should be some way to FIRE them when they're incompetent?? )

heike: it is NOT verboten, as long as you don't do it to cheat. Say you want to go to bed. You save, then reload the next day - right? You don't go back to change something, after all!


If a city starves, the governor will kick in after a citizen dies and assign entertainers to tiles until unhappiness would set it. Keep the city from starving and you will avoid that. In your example, the governor should NOT re-assign the citizen once you turn him off......

I hope I understand the question correctly, but if you are trying to stop production of say a "palace" because you are going to switch the palace to a wonder (hanging gardens??) until you can get Monarchy? What I do is I send the city into disorder for a few turns, then there is NO production. There are a few ways to do this, (turn down the luxury slider and make comedians in the other cities, or cut a luxury resource to the city, or if the city already HAS comedians, make them into tax collectors) There are other ways I do this but I can't remember right now

go into governers screen (G in the city you want to enter) and deselect the option for 'emphasize production'. you might want to makesure nothing is emphasized, soyou have more chance of people staying etertainers instead of going back to work the next turn.

This almost sounds like it could be a mac bug.

But finding the answer could take much much longer than changing the citizens tasks for 3 turns. Even if you had 20 citizens, it wouldn't take that long to change them all to scientists/taxmen.

== PF

Ok
Thanks to everyone for the ideas.
I am in PTW with latest patch. The problem was that my city was starving and there was no way around it. Absolutly Nothing worked with the city governor so I sold my temple, cut my city off from luxuries and went into disorder for 4 turns until I discovered monarchy and switched to the hanging gardens. Very extreme but it worked.

Back to beating up the Egyptians

Geno