How do you make a ship face another ship head on, when the other ship turns to fire? I mean in the case of the galleasses, or smoking mirror's war galley... If I don't tag 'rotate before attack' and it fights a ship that does rotate before attack, ie, frigate, or privateer, they both just charge at each other, and the one that's supposed to turn doesn't, it just fires it's guns off to the side! Can anyone help me? I don't know the correct combination to make it work.
Ugh, such a bother!
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I am not sure, but mess around with the ranged attack flags, because I had that problem with some of my ships, but now they all work correctly.
EDIT: I guess I don't, I thought I had it fixed... so.... any suggestions. I am no tsure if what embryodead is saying is right, I'll have to check.
EDIT: I guess I don't, I thought I had it fixed... so.... any suggestions. I am no tsure if what embryodead is saying is right, I'll have to check.
embryodead
Caliph
it's just that both "ranged attack animation" and "rotate before attack" must be on
In the mod I added the Gallease and the fire galley they both fire headon while the the ships that rotate...err rotate and fire their broadsides weather its the galley, caravel, Galleon, frigate, or the manOwar...I been Adding units to the player1 mod.
I'm specifically having trouble with the late galleass, and the war galley, by colonel kraken, and smoking mirror, respectively. I realize that to get the desired effect, I should only have to set the tags to the ones the ironclad or submarine have, which I tried, only to find that the ships somehow prevent the ones they are fighting from rotating, be it galley to battleship, and the ships always crowd onto the same tile, in effect, neither preforms a ranged attack at all. I even tried tagging those two ships to rotate themselves, even though that would make no sense, and it didn't do a thing! All my other units work just fine, these are recent downloads, and I do know how to set all this stuff up, so I really don't think it's a stupid error on my part. Has anyone else added these two units, and are able to make them work correctly? Also, since I'm looking for help with these specific units, I'm going to start a thread for each, so perhaps the creators will see it, and offer their advice. Thanks if anyone can help.
Kryten
Smeee heeeeed
I never knew there was a problem with this.
TVA22, I wonder if you could try a little experiment.
A year ago I made a variation of the Civ3 Galley called a "Persian Galley" (just a normal Galley with furled sails).
This also attacks forwards without the 'ranged attack' flag.
Does this also have the same effect as you have discovered?
If so, then the only solution I can think of is to make the 'rotation' as part of the normal animation, as I have done with the "Ancient Merchant Ship/Invasion Barge Variation", as discribed here....
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50967&pagenumber=1
Of couse, this means changing EVERY rotating ship attack animation (and the death animation as well), then removing the 'rotate' flag from ALL ships....
....a big job, but it would fix this problem.
TVA22, I wonder if you could try a little experiment.
A year ago I made a variation of the Civ3 Galley called a "Persian Galley" (just a normal Galley with furled sails).
This also attacks forwards without the 'ranged attack' flag.
Does this also have the same effect as you have discovered?
If so, then the only solution I can think of is to make the 'rotation' as part of the normal animation, as I have done with the "Ancient Merchant Ship/Invasion Barge Variation", as discribed here....
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50967&pagenumber=1
Of couse, this means changing EVERY rotating ship attack animation (and the death animation as well), then removing the 'rotate' flag from ALL ships....
....a big job, but it would fix this problem.
Kryten
Smeee heeeeed
Ah, Neomega....
....I am not sure what effect this would have on Bomarbing Ships.....
(Would they use the wrong direction when they bombarded?
)
....I am not sure what effect this would have on Bomarbing Ships.....
(Would they use the wrong direction when they bombarded?
)no, bombard is just attack A, and when a battleship bombards, it does a 90 degree turn first.
EDIT: wait hmmm..... I don't know... ... usually bombarding ships like destroyers turn to face the coast, so I think with the modified animations it would still be correct.
EDIT: wait hmmm..... I don't know... ... usually bombarding ships like destroyers turn to face the coast, so I think with the modified animations it would still be correct.
embryodead
Caliph
i think i didnt udnerstand the first post, sorry for mine then... now i see, that i haven't been able to do that too... and War Galley doesnt have any normal attack animation. Maybe someone could copy'n'paste the arrows?
I've been testing today, and the really strange thing is, If I attack with a war galley, it works fine, but if my war galley is attacked, it messes up... This just doesn't make any sense though... the ironclad and submarine work, so why doesn't this? And why would it work only part of the time? I would post my whole mod here, so people could see I'm not going insane, but it would be a rather large post for a rather small problem. Kryten, I'll try out your ship later on, right now it's 2 a.m. for me, and I'm only here because this is driving me insane.... I really pay way too much attention to this game
Kryten, I've found that the problem does exist with your persian galley as well.
I've made a very simplistic scenario to showcase this strange problem. Anyone who wants to try it, just start the scenario, and attack the enemy fleet with your own. Notice the effect when the 3 custom units are on defense, and when they're on offense, vs. the ironclad and nuke sub, which act as these are supposed to.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/thiswickedproblem.zip
I've made a very simplistic scenario to showcase this strange problem. Anyone who wants to try it, just start the scenario, and attack the enemy fleet with your own. Notice the effect when the 3 custom units are on defense, and when they're on offense, vs. the ironclad and nuke sub, which act as these are supposed to.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads4/thiswickedproblem.zip
aaglo
Furioso!
TVA22, tampering the flc's wouldn't help a bit.
BTW, does anyone know why, in the unit Ini-files, there is this DEFEND= line? Has anyone tried to use this for some strange purpose?
BTW, does anyone know why, in the unit Ini-files, there is this DEFEND= line? Has anyone tried to use this for some strange purpose?
Risbinroch
Prince
I have noticed that line, does that work for anything? Then you could have different defend and attack animations, that would be cool...
aaglo
Furioso!
That should be propably asked from firaxis...
Kryten
Smeee heeeeed
No....that would be more bleedin' work!
I hope that no-one ever finds out.
Good grief....it takes me long enough as it is to make new units!
aaglo
Furioso!
But that's just a couple of more frames 
Kinboat
Conan the Librarian
I tried putting a FLC in the Defend line but I don't think it changed anything in the game...
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