Provincial borders 2: Capitoline

Please select the Option you like best
(please note the western border is already set)

Option One:


Option Two:


This poll will be open for 48 hours

The Discussion Thread

Again, I will post in support of one option in a purely non-official capacity...

Although it makes Capitoline quite large, Option One is clearly superior. There is no need to restrict ourselves to the 'land bridge, it does not form any real border. The best borders lie on mountain ranges, always have, and option one follows the lie of the land very well.

Additionally, it places the Capital at the heart of the capital province, as is fitting (our attempts to do otherwise last DG were disasterous).

Thirdly and most importantly, we must consider the impact of this border on the neighbouring provinces... If we take option one, 'Old Egypt' province (not officialy named) will have consistantly logical borders, and a decent, well populated heartland. It would also allow any conquered Egyptian cities to be immediately placed in an established administrative block.
On the other hand, the second proposal would mean 'Old Egypt' would be little more than mountains and deny any possibility of being a 'great' province.

To illustrate my point, I will show you a projection of borders for the next provinces for each option:

Option one would engender:






Option two would engender:



See how much more logical and clear option one is? This vote is only for the border of Capitoline, but it has ramifications that will affect all borders to come on this continent!!

I voted for Option #2. This is beacuase it keeps the Capital Province at a manageable size. At 154 land tiles, the Capital Province in Option #2 is slightly larger than the Western province, but no so much so that it is overwhelming for the equality in Provinces, nor the workload of the Governor.

In Option #1, AJ wishes to add an additional 50 land tiles to the proposed Province. This is much too large and lends itself to problems in several areas. Also the geographical arguement, which is and has been supported so strongly all along has now been dropped by AJ. The land bridge border of 4 to 5 land tiles makes much more sense than the border of Option #1 which winds through the hills and crosses a valley to run down a grassland to the water. See? Option #1 is only "superior" for the placement of AJ's "wish Province of Olde Egypt, which at the moment appears to be larger than his proposed Capital Province.

With all these considerations taken into account, I voted for Option #2 easily. The geographical aspect, the size uniformity, and the future planning of Provinces all show that Option #2 is a much better choice.

I also voted for option 2. If we ignore all the rhetoric that accompanies the support for the first option, the second option is the one that makes the most sense.

Option 2 is neater and easier on the eye. It is logical to terminate the province at the land bridge. I agree with Cyc that Option 1 is more about the plans for the next province than what is best for Capitoline. Option 2 cuts neatly across the land bridge rather than winding over hill and dale. If AJ truly favours following geography and planning provinces which are neat and tidy then he will support Option 2.

Option 2 is also the best choice in terms of size. It is comparable to the ‘western province’. However the first option is much too large and will contain more cities than was voted for.

The choice of border for this province has no bearing on the shape or size of the subsequent provinces we define despite what has been said.
It must be chosen as a result of what is best for Capitoline. So I urge you all to vote for Option 2, the best choice for Fanatica

Cyc and Peri have summed it up quite nicely. Option One would give Capitoline the opportunity for far more than the 9 cities projected here.

I proposed Option 2, and so I shall vote for Option 2.

>sigh<
Oh the humanity...