Process for balancing production quotas

I am finding that our demogame system is missing an element found in single player games, and that is balancing of production based on national goals.

I would like to see a process where various leaders make production requests in a common place, the requests are balanced according to our national strategy, and build queues are created with these national quotas in mind.

I propose the following for a long term planning process. This might be at the beginning of a term, and the discussion should be open prior to elections so that the new administration will have input to work with on day one.

I do not believe we need a law on this if we can get general agreement that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few (or the one).

• A production goals thread is created (subforum tbd pending input)
• Domestic, Military, Culture, Science leaders post their production requests in this thread. Citizen input is welcome. Governors should post their provincial production capacity estimates.
• Discussion open for input
• If no concensus is reached via discussion, a poll is posted regarding options. (I suggest Domestic has responsibility for this, but open for discussion)
• Given concensus, or poll results, consolidated production requests are posted.
• The governors arrange production of the fixed location items (city with Copernicus' must have library, university, research lab, to maximize benefits, and should be the target for Newtons as well).
• Governors post their agreement to produce non-fixed requests (mostly units). Domestic adjusts if needed (hopefully unlikely)
• Governors post build queus.

I propose the following short-term (as in on a turnchat by turnchat basis, not as in start this immediately) planning process. This should not be construed as a proposal to give anyone carte-blanche to take over the game. It should be used in rare and clearly obvious cases.

• The President, Vice President, and Domestic Leader (each separately or together) should be able to review and modify queues which are inappropriate for the current game situation and/or strategy. The preferred method to achieve this, time permitting, is to contact the Governor to point out the problem and request an update. All efforts should be made to involve the Governor in this process.
• If time does not permit for a request / approval for a change, and the problem is significant in terms of game play, the DP may make changes as long as the change made and reasons are posted. This follows the principle that the DP is responsible for game play and good in-game results should be the primary goal.
• During play, the Designated Player may react to game situations regarding production. Several specific instances come to mind. If we start getting asked for tribute because our military is too weak, or a rival invades and/or declares war on us, the DP must be free to change production to military units.
• If a new Wonder becomes available, the DP needs to be able to start a prebuild and then take the decision of whether to actually produce the wonder to the forums. This could occur unexpectedly if some other civ offers a favorable trade.

Discussion please

Edit: renamed thread so another one can be started with the topic people were looking for

Only governors have the authority to post build queues. I do not think this should be changed. Let them have the final say and leave it at that.

Anyone is free to start a discussion thread about about our national priorities and it would be great to have one. In fact I thought this was one and was very disappointed to find that it is only one more in what seems to be a never ending series of threads about RULES.

If you want to get production balanced DaveShack then I suggest you start a thread about balancing production rather than a thread about rules to balance production...

During play, the Designated Player may react to game situations regarding production. Several specific instances come to mind. If we start getting asked for tribute because our military is too weak, or a rival invades and/or declares war on us, the DP must be free to change production to military units.

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I don't want the DP just to be able to override anything he can come up with a reason for. What if we say that build queues must stand (though the President, VP, and Domestic leader can certainly ask to have queues changed) unless we are under attack by a foreign power, in which case the DP can change build queues to build military units.

Prebuilds could also override build queues if decided in a poll on the forums.

Originally posted by donsig

If you want to get production balanced DaveShack then I suggest you start a thread about balancing production rather than a thread about rules to balance production...

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Well, some people seem more than willing to put their personal power above national interests, so this thread was born.

But I agree with your point about actually doing it, so a balanced production goals thread has also been started.

In regards to your first post in this thread DS, I like the first group of listed items, but i disagree with the second group of listed items.

I came across your "balanced Goals" thrad before i found this one, so I posted my opinion regarding goals there.

I think that this (and the other thread) are good for discussion purposes, but I feel the Governors should retain their control over build queues.

That process creates a check and balance between the Legislative and Executive branches of government. Further, without control over queues, the Governors would have titles only, and little actual impact on the game.

As with all elected positions, the governor should be responding to, and driving FORUM disucssion of the will fo the people regarding their build queues.