New Scenario: Violence 2000

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Violence 2000 is a new fictional scenario created by GiantSquid. It is about last year's presidential election in the U.S. and your goal in the scenario is to become elected President in 2004 by controlling the most electoral votes. The storyline of the scenario is as follows:

On the fateful night of November 7, 2000, hundreds of millions of Americans went to the polls to choose the 43rd President. By the next morning, it was clear that irregularities and illegal manipulation, particularly in Florida, would prevent anyone from knowing who won for a long, long, time. Finally, the Supreme Court voted along partisan lines to stop recounting votes and declared Bush the winner. Gore graciously conceded. Or did he?

We have just learned that Vice-President Gore has declared the Court's decision illegal, and has called upon loyal forces in New England, California, and the Midwest to rise up and support him! Most major cities in these regions have fallen to his supporters without a fight, and are anxiously awaiting further news. Meantime, in a totally unprecedented move, Bush has asked Clinton to step down immediately so he can deal with the problem. He has nearly the entire Armed Forces under his control, and has ordered a blockade of Washington to force the President to comply. Clinton, declaring Washington to be the "true and Constitutional United States", has refused. As Bush and Gore slowly but surely take over the last cities still loyal to Washington and other partisan enclaves rise up in protest, it seems clear that the bullet will prove mightier than the ballot on at least this occasion...

Checkout this unusual scenario while you wait for Civ3!

>> Download this scenario
 
:rolleyes: Man you demacrats are still moanin and groanin about the damn election ,,,, you got to be kiddin:lol:
 
I don't know. I didn't really seem to take sides, so it might be fun for either side. Besides, if it lets you play Bush you can get rid of Gore once and for all! :rocket2: :lol:
 
what's the scenario for? classic? FW? CiC? MGE? ToT? you see my problem don't you? i'll download it anyways and find out i guess.
 
"Finally, the Supreme Court voted along partisan lines to stop recounting votes and declared Bush the winner"

To be fair (and more importantly, accurate):
The Florida Supreme Court voted strictly along partisan lines to make law (unconstitutional) and keep the voting going--twice (7-0 and 6-0-1). The Supreme Court with a 7-2 vote told the Florida Supreme Court to stop breaking the constitution (this was the second time; the first time the vote was 9-0 stop breaking the constitution). However, they also voted 5-4 (along partisan lines) to force the state of Florida to follow their own laws. While the statement above is technically correct, it is factually and contextually lacking.

More information is available on a myriad of websites, but stick to CNN et al., as they are likely to be the least biased.

That said, the Scenario sounds interesting, but it can't be half as cool as Fortress America was.
 
N.B. : The recount kept going, unofficially, after it was declared over and it turned out the majority of remaining votes were going to Bush. I remember reading about this. That means it wouldn't have made a difference anyway, but the fact remains that Al Gore did have a majority of the nation's vote.

If the South had become independent in the 1860s, we wouldn't have this problem because George Bush would get elected in the south and Al Gore in the north and that would be that.

Seems like a really interesting scenario, though. Someone should make one like it for Civ3 once that game comes out.
 
Hmm.. its not working with my MGE.. probably just doing something wrong. I dunno :)
 
how could bush get voted president if al gore got the most votes :confused:

in NZ the party leader of the major party in the governing coalition is primeminister Simple:goodjob:
 
Originally posted by Robespierre
That means it wouldn't have made a difference anyway, but the fact remains that Al Gore did have a majority of the nation's vote.
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Right, but the fact remains that that is meaningless. The total popular vote has NO effect on the election. Its the individual popular vote of each state that matters. The constitution was set up that way on purpose.

Personally, I don't think Gore should've won in any case. I mean, even Mondale (in 1984) won his home state. If you don't have the support of the state you're from, you shouldn't even be running, let alone winning.

And, my last word on the subject:
Bush still received more popular votes in 2000 than Clinton did in 1992.
 
Gore didnt have 51% of the votes which means he didn't have a majority.

If you take a county by county map of the nation, its extremely obvious why Bush won the election.

This is why the electoral college is a good thing. Popular vote dosent neccessarily represent the whole nation.
 
eh, last time i checked, the majority does represent the most popular ideology. this last election was an aberation where the majority got shafted.
 
Except less than 30% of the population voted for Gore (or Bush, or Clinton). That's not a majority.
 
Originally posted by t92300
how could bush get voted president if al gore got the most votes :confused:
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Because the US doesn't use the popular vote. If that were the case, all a canidit would have to do is campaign is LA and New York and he'd win. With the electorial vote system, however, it's sort of a combanation of winning the population and land area. Sort of. It could be better, but it works much better than going for the popular vote.
By the way, if you color all the counties that voted for Bush red, and all those that voted for Gor blue, the entire nation would nearly be covered in red! There's a map showing this somewhere on FoxNews or CNN's websites, but I don't remember where.
 
Originally posted by ChrTh
Except less than 30% of the population voted for Gore (or Bush, or Clinton). That's not a majority.
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of the population that voted (all those who cared) gore got more than 50% :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by H Tower


of the population that voted (all those who cared) gore got more than 50% :rolleyes:
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I think Gore got 49%, Bush 47%, and the other 4% went to the other dispersed partys. Don't quote me on that, though.
 
Originally posted by CoolLizy
By the way, if you color all the counties that voted for Bush red, and all those that voted for Gor blue, the entire nation would nearly be covered in red! There's a map showing this somewhere on FoxNews or CNN's websites, but I don't remember where.
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What that map shows, better than anything, is that land and not people decide the presidency under the electoral college system. People who live in rural areas have more say than people who do not. Personally, I think every vote should count alike -- even the ones that never counted in Florida.
 
Lizy, before the one man, one vote system that allows modern democracy was instituted, voting was based on ownership of land. Do you really think that we should go back to that?
 
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