Civ 4 forum

Håkan Eriksson

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We have sub forums called Civilization III, Civilization II, Civilization I, COLOSSEUM etc.

Time to start one called Civilization IV
 
I agree with Yoda- while it is a good idea, I think it would be best to wait until civ 4 is in a state similer to what C3C was in when its forum was open -mabey around the time when the first screens shots are opened
 
Our esteemed moderators have already discussed this and decided that for now, this thread is all that will happen for now.
 
but our esteemed moderators may also want to eventually open up a little corner for civ4 eventually, and what better way to know when then to consult the masses in there opinion in the subject?
 
Yes, a small forum was opebed to Civ3 too a while before the game itself popped out.
 
Since the announcement that CivIV is in some stage of production, there is some merit to this discussion, but IMHO there shouldn't be a forum until we have some idea when it *might* be coming out.

I mean, geez, we just got Conquests...
 
IMO, we should have a Civ4 forum now.

To those who oppose it: Why is a Civ4 forum worse than a Civ4 thread?
 
Originally posted by WillJ
To those who oppose it: Why is a Civ4 forum worse than a Civ4 thread?
The only thing to talk about for Civ4 right now is what we would like to see in it. So far, it doesn't exist, except as *vaporware*.

Letting Firaxis know what we would like to see in it can be handled in a thread easily. Why waste a whole forum?? :)
 
Originally posted by WillJ
To those who oppose it: Why is a Civ4 forum worse than a Civ4 thread?
A Civ4 thread is a place we can suggest various ideas for the game. If there were to be a whole forum opened right now, it wouldn't really be a springboard for ideas so much as a spamfest for well dressed complaints with what people see wrong with III...maybe even I and II for that matter since there's some that didn't jump to III.
 
Originally posted by Padma
Letting Firaxis know what we would like to see in it can be handled in a thread easily. Why waste a whole forum?? :)
Well, its just that I imagine that in a thread there'll be many, many repeats of ideas because people aren't willing to read the entire thread. Whereas with a forum people can look at the thread titles and get a good idea of what's been said, and look into the threads if the title interests them, possibly giving Yea or Nea to the idea. I remember the Conquests thread a while ago. Then I remember the Conquests forum. I (and I'm sure the developers/marketers) had a more positive experience in the latter than in the former. :)

And I assumed that since a new thread takes up no more space on the server than a new post, a new forum takes up no more space than a new thread. Maybe not, though.
Originally posted by superslug
If there were to be a whole forum opened right now, it wouldn't really be a springboard for ideas so much as a spamfest for well dressed complaints with what people see wrong with III...maybe even I and II for that matter since there's some that didn't jump to III.
1. What's wrong with that? I'm assuming if someone complains about Civ3, they're doing it because blah-blah-blah should be fixed, in their opinion. Which is partly what the Civ4 forum would/should be about.

2. Why is that more likely to happen in a forum than a thread?
 
I think a Civ IV ideas forum is in order, because the thread is complicated and hard to read, while many threads will be easier.
 
Originally posted by WillJ
What's wrong with that? I'm assuming if someone complains about Civ3, they're doing it because blah-blah-blah should be fixed, in their opinion. Which is partly what the Civ4 forum would/should be about.
Because there's going to be at least one patch or more for Conquests. There's still plenty of oppurtunity to improve the game we've got.

Besides that, opening the floor to open discussions about Civ4 at this point without knowing anything about it would lead to some really abstract and theoretical conversations, some of which invariably turn to needless trolling and flaming. I really don't see why the moderators should need to put up with that...well, not yet anyways.:p
 
I would love to see a Civ4 forum. However, I agree that there might not be enough to keep the forum active.

It does occur to me that there are certain sub-forums that may not get a lot of traffic. I can see a Civ4 sub-forum getting the same amount of traffic.

If nothing else, it might be a good idea to have a couple of stickied threads for Civ4 in Civ3:GD. One for ideas, one for discussion, maybe one or two others. Just a thought. . . .
 
Even if there were a Civ4 forum, there wouldn't be much to talk about except for a wishlist and rumors/speculation. Screenshots and feature discussion would only come about a year before the release when screenshots are starting to be shown. Maybe there could be one 6 months before the release when there's enough to talk about.
 
Originally posted by WillJ
Well, its just that I imagine that in a thread there'll be many, many repeats of ideas because people aren't willing to read the entire thread. Whereas with a forum people can look at the thread titles and get a good idea of what's been said, and look into the threads if the title interests them, possibly giving Yea or Nea to the idea.
Not in my experience as a mod. ;) People start threads without even looking to see if the subject has been brought up before, or even recently (sometimes even the same day!).
I remember the Conquests thread a while ago. Then I remember the Conquests forum. I (and I'm sure the developers/marketers) had a more positive experience in the latter than in the former. :)
The Conquest Forum was begun at the explicit request of Atari, who felt it was time for one....
 
I do think it might be a good idea to have a small subforum of the Civ3 GD forum that would be dedicated to Civ4 ideas; it would be much easier to read than the thread and I can't see any reason for it not to be created; it would not be a waste of server space.
 
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