Ratification poll for CoL Section X - Elections

ravensfire · Dec 28, 2003

Shall we ratify the following as Section X of the Code of Laws?

Code:

Elections (CoL section)

I.  Elections shall be supervised by the Election Office under guidance 
    from the Moderators.
  A.  At the conclusion of an election cycle, the Election Office shall:
    1.  Determine and post the results of the election in a thread in the 
        main forum.
    2.  Determine and post the dates of the next election cycle in the  
        first post of the Election Office.
  
II.  For the purposes of this clause, all times shall be expressed in GMT.

III.  The following offices shall have one calendar month terms, beginning 
      on the first day of that month
  A.  President
  B.  Minister of Internal Affairs
  C.  Minister of Defense
  D.  Minister of Foreign Affairs
  E.  Minister of Trade and Technology
  F.  Chief Justice
  G.  2 Associate Justice
  H.  1 Provincial Governor per Province
  I.  At-Large Govenors, if needed
  
IV.  Elections shall be conducted according to the following scheduled:
  A.  Nominations shall start 7 days before the end of the month and run 
      until the election polls are posted.
  B.  Debates shall start 7 days before the end of the month and run until 
      the election polls close.
  C.  Election polls shall start 4 days before the end of the month and run 
      for 3 days.
  
V.  The citizen gathering the most votes in an election is deemed the winner 
    of that election.
  A.  Should more than one citizen tie with the highest totals, a run-off 
      election lasting 2 days shall be immediately posted listing only the tied citizens.

Relevant Discussion
Election Process

Please vote as follows:
Yes
No
Abstain

This poll shall run for 4 days

Please also vote in the Code of Standards Election section.

-- Ravensfire

EDIT: Replaced Judiciary with Moderators in I.

Cyc · Dec 28, 2003

I'm going to have to declare the posting of this proposal contradictory to existing law. The very first line is contrary to Section F of the CoL, which states ~

3. Democracy game forum moderators are responsible
for overseeing the election process and determining the validity of election results.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

We obviously have a conflict of authority here. This needs to be resolved. I believe as Section F is about to pass, we should strike Judiciary from Section X.I and replace it with Civ3 Demogame Moderators.

Bootstoots · Dec 28, 2003

I agree with that, Judiciary should be replaced with Moderators because of already-approved legislation.

Otherwise, it looks good to me.

ravensfire · Dec 28, 2003

Cyc, Boots,

Bah - can't believe I missed that. In the back of my head I was wanting to have the Judiciary serve as the primary supervision for elections, with mods called in only as needed (suspected fraud). As we have things in the mod. duties section of the CoL, we can't do that.

Thus, as both of you have commented, that needs to change. I'm going to edit the main post.

Attention! There has been a slight verbage change in the proposal, replacing Judiciary with Moderators in clause I. Please post here if this would have affected your ratification vote.

Sorry for any trouble!
-- Ravensfire

Furiey · Dec 29, 2003

Changing Judiciary to Moderators solves the conflict, but I dont think that it keeps the intention of the law. How about:

Elections shall be supervised by the Election Office under guidance from the Judiciary and oversight by the Moderators.

This tries to indicate that the Judiciary are there more in an active role, the Moderators acting more as independent overseers. From the discussions this appears to be more what was intended.

Karsten Strauss · Dec 29, 2003

Whatever we decide, I encourage us to clear up the moderators issue quickly since we are in the midst of our first elections. I think we should go with just replacing justices with moderators for the moment, and we can work on a constitutional amendment later if need be. I'd like to get it right now, but I don't want to see first term election controversy.

Sarevok · Dec 30, 2003

Its good as is.

ravensfire · Jan 6, 2004

This section has been ratified.

-- Ravensfire

Ratification poll for CoL Section X - Elections

Shall we ratify this section?

Yes

No

Abstain

ravensfire

Member of the Opposition

Cyc

Looking for the door...

Bootstoots

Deity

ravensfire

Member of the Opposition

Furiey

No Longer Just Lurking

Karsten Strauss

Chieftain

Sarevok

Civ3 Scenario Creator

ravensfire

Member of the Opposition

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