Marrying someone of your own sex? Why can't you marry your father like everyone else?

Man...that great American dream crushed by an activist judge....tsk tsk tsk.

Now don't you feel proud to hail from a state where the judges are usurping the great American people!?

Yick...marrying your father....yuck...
 
The following is a rough paraphrase of an interview I once heard...

INTERVIEWER: Why do all the bad guys come from House Slytherin? Isn't that a bit prejudiced?
ROWLING: Putting all the wackos together makes for simplified bookkeeping.


See, this is exactly why we have states....
 
Sick.
 
sick, but i am not the morality police.
 
Originally posted by The Yankee
Now don't you feel proud to hail from a state where the judges are usurping the great American people!?
Not only my state, my very own city! As Duke I should put a stop to this. ;)
Originally posted by archer_007
I dont see how we can send them to jail, but whatever.

Still odd though.
The reason for sending them to jail would be because we don't want fathers and daughters having kids, for obvious genetic reasons.
 
what if we cut the guys wires so they couldnt reproduce? would it be ok then? ;)
 
Originally posted by WillJ
Not only my state, my very own city! As Duke I should put a stop to this. ;)The reason for sending them to jail would be because we don't want fathers and daughters having kids, for obvious genetic reasons.

Even if they tried to have kids, the chance of her getting pregnant would be one out of a billion. The chance of that baby living past birth would be from all known accounts, impossible.
 
Originally posted by Moss321
Even if they tried to have kids, the chance of her getting pregnant would be one out of a billion. The chance of that baby living past birth would be from all known accounts, impossible.
You're saying it's harder for two people to have kids when they're father/daughter than otherwise? Why would that be? And I don't consider the low chance of the baby living past birth a good thing (and I doubt it's true; incestually-born kids aren't THAT bad off, AFAIK).
 
Incest only get's real dangerous when it's been going on for a few generations.

Incestous marriages appears to've been business as usual among Incan royalty, and it's well known from the ancient Egyptian elite too.
 
Hmmmm, I can't belive they were even able to get married in the first place considering that they live in the bible belt.
 
Originally posted by The Last Conformist
Incest only get's real dangerous when it's been going on for a few generations.
This is Alabama; it HAS been going on for a few generations. ;)

Seriously though, reading the incest thread along with this thread I'm starting to think about whether or not incest and intra-familial marriages should be allowed, considering this. I guess it's true that genetic disorders aren't extremely likely and damaging when it's just one occurence of incest, and even if they were, should eugenics be part of our legal system?
Originally posted by MarineCorps
Hmmmm, I can't belive they were even able to get married in the first place considering that they live in the bible belt.
If I remember right from watching the news a few days ago, no one knew that they were father and daughter when they married, and even THEY didn't know (although that's probably just a made-up defense for their actions).
 
Ahhh....Valentines Day in OT :D

Where did the incest thread got to? I wrote this reply for it.

Sex as a biology teacher once said to me is about the exchange of genetic ideas. Would OT be as fun if we all had the same political ideas? Equally would sex be as fun if the people we had sex with had the same genetic ideas? I would say that both would be crap. Of course for some people,individuals with different genetics and different views from their own present a threat and they adopt as one poster has said a clannish view on the world. In my view I think that the whole ethos of these people from incest sex ( which is unquestionably unhealthy) to their world view is uncompetitive and potentially destructive.
 
Originally posted by Moss321
Even if they tried to have kids, the chance of her getting pregnant would be one out of a billion. The chance of that baby living past birth would be from all known accounts, impossible.

Which known accounts?
The danger in inbreeding lies in a (usually very slight but rising with the closeness of the relationship) increased chance of recessive genes with negative effects manifesting.
As The Last Conformist points out, incest is only really dangerous (genetically anyway :rolleyes: ) when it's been going on for a few generations.

If they did remain together and decide to have children, the chances are pretty good that the child would be perfectly normal, at least as normal as anyone with that sort of social stigma is going to be anyway.
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Saved Post (Because it was deleted from the Incest thread, and when I re-posted it, the thread was deleted.)

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Originally posted by Margim
Theoretically, if there is nothing ethically wrong with aborting a pregnancy, there are no moral grounds to condemn incest (consenting adult incest - which is as different from child rape as paedophilia is from homosexuality) either, on the basis of the gene-pool defense used in earlier posts. Frankly, the only thing wrong with it is that people find it distasteful (yes, I actually do to).
Lets lose our so called 'enlightened' arrogance in talking about sexuality and admit that we all have our own standards to which none of us will completely agree. We have justifications, but is one person's really any better than anothers?

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It is precidely because no one person's wisdom is sufficient to give him the neccessary insight to guide his own life that no man's opinion be used to guide another's. That is why God gave us law, to protect us from ourselves.

This discussion, and the objectively revolting conclusions that many here choose to draw from it, are the only evidence required to prove that the wisdom of man is foolishness.
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(Isaiah 5:20)"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil..."
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Suffice it to say, I stongly and vehemently disagree with the legalisation of incest on any grounds. There is no such thing as subjective standards of morality, and trying to base a legal system on something that doesn't exist is foolhardy.


EDIT: Since a moderator has come to my rescue, the deliberately inflammatory portion of my post has been removed. I guess negative attention-getting behavior is an effective means of protest.
 
Originally posted by Moss321


Even if they tried to have kids, the chance of her getting pregnant would be one out of a billion. The chance of that baby living past birth would be from all known accounts, impossible.

I'm doing genetics now (although admittedy very basic) in biology, and I think the babies would live - it would just be taht all the recessive genes start coming to the surface. Balding women...;) etc.
 
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