Peace Renegotiation

Furiey · Mar 26, 2004

It's 610 AD and it has been noted in the Tech Trade discussion thread that Renegotiating Peace can save us gold in our tech deals:

Originally posted by Rik Meleet

I'd like to also point out that renegotiating peace is possible with all Group A civs. I'm not going to calculate it's total effect, I just want to mention that:
Germany - Renegotiating drops the Engineering price by 123 gold to 652 gold.
India - Has no Engineering, but they give all their gold (13) for a renegotiated peace treaty.
Russia - Renegotiating drops the Engineering price by 222 gold to 532 gold.
Babylon - Renegotiating drops the Engineering price by 209 gold to 572 gold.
Greece - Has no Engineering, but they give all their gold (2) for a renegotiated peace treaty.
Egypt - Renegotiating drops the Engineering price by 101 gold to 632 gold.

Renegotiating Peace would give us 20 turns during which we can't go to war with that Civ without destroying our reputation. It also gives us 20 turns during which we can build up our Infrastructure and Military.

So do we want to include Peace Renegotiation in these Tech deals, do we want to Renegotiate Peace anyway, or is it preferrable not to?

tao · Mar 26, 2004

If at all, I would agree to renegotiate peace w Russia as part of c) in my trading suggestion. But only if it gives us 100+ gold extra, which I doubt.

Chieftess · Mar 26, 2004

What about Persia, and the new civs we just met?

Furiey · Mar 26, 2004

Summary of all the Civs - what they'll pay for a straight Peace Renegotiation (this is included in the Foreign Affairs Summary in the Term 3 Foreign Office thread)

Code:

Russia         4g + WM (all their gold)
Babylon       11g + WM (all their gold)
India         13g + WM (all their gold)
Germany             WM (they have no gold)
Greece         2g + WM (all their gold)
Egypt          1g + WM (all their gold)
Persia        WE PAY
Aztec         16g      (they wont throw in a WM)
Zulu           4g + WM (all their gold)
Iroquois      12g + WM (all their gold)

Rik Meleet · Mar 26, 2004

Those gains for us in the deals are too small. We can renegotiate at any given time, IF we don't renegotiate now. If we do; we won't be able to for the next 20 turns. I suggest we'll wait with doing that until the civs get more gold for us to renegotiate with.

Except of course the renegotiating for cheaper rates on techs.

zorven · Mar 26, 2004

It seems that it may only be worth it in the case of the trading for techs.

Furiey · Mar 27, 2004

Both Rik and zorven and tao have the same feeling I have - it may only worth it if it to help the trading of techs. I don't think that there's a Civ we particularly want to have a 20 turn peace deal with at this point in time.

Furiey · Mar 27, 2004

Poll is up here

Peace Renegotiation

Furiey

No Longer Just Lurking

tao

Deity

Chieftess

Moderator

Furiey

No Longer Just Lurking

Rik Meleet

Top predator

zorven

12,000 Suns

Furiey

No Longer Just Lurking

Furiey

No Longer Just Lurking

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