where the forbidden palace should go?

< Updated Civilopedia.txt Forbidden Palace to explain that all cities are still affected by distance from the Real Capital >

Let's put rank corruption and distance corruption aside. In terms of playing the game, what does this mean? In the original, I liked to have a ring of cities around my palace and then move over with enough distance to have a second ring of cities around the FP. But this explanation indicates that all of the cities should be more near to the palace.

What is everyone's opinion about where the forbidden palace should go? Does it even matter?

Place it far enough from your Palace so that you get a second ring of low distance corruption, but close enough that the second ring doesn't suffer from high rank corruption.

OK so you said forget rank and distance corruption. Then you should probably build your Forbidden Palace as soon as possible to take advantage of the OCN boost that it gives. You can then move your Palace with a MGL to optimally position your cores.

If you don't want to move your Palace, I would suggest building your FP in a city towards the center of your continent which is already about 50% corrupt. That way, after you build courhouses, you will get two cores with very low corruption.

This has been bugging me for a while:

Is rank corruption determined upon what order you build your cities in? Ie, if you built a city 40 tiles away from your capital, but it was your 2nd city to be founded, would it have a lower rank than a city right next to you capital, but it was your 3rd city?
Or is it what order they are in distance from your capital? Ie, you build 4 cities each one tile further away (than the other) from the capital, and they are built in a random order, would the city closest to the capital have a lower rank?

I've read both corruption articles, and am still unsure about this. Although I understand the distance factor.
Thanks in advance

Originally posted by Gainy bo
Ie, you build 4 cities each one tile further away (than the other) from the capital, and they are built in a random order, would the city closest to the capital have a lower rank?

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Yes

<Place it far enough from your Palace so that you get a second ring of low distance corruption, but close enough that the second ring doesn't suffer from high rank corruption. >

I guess I just don't understand. The text says "all cities are still affected by distance from the Real Capital". Given that statement how would the placement of the FP have any influence over distance corruption?

I guess that I don't understand rank corruption either. Each city will have a rank assigned to it from the palace/FP. Again, how would placement of the FP change the above fact?

The Civilopedia text is wrong.
Everything about corruption

oh no!!! the civilopedia text is wrong! i must rethink my life. i might even.... leave my room. and then i might..... get an education. ahhh stuff it i'll just play more civ

Rank Corruption relates to when a city was built.
But how about a city that is CAPTURED?? Is its rank based on it capture date or its built date?

Originally posted by Jaybe
Rank Corruption relates to when a city was built.
But how about a city that is CAPTURED?? Is its rank based on it capture date or its built date?

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Rank actually relates to distance from the capital relative to other cities' distance -- which causes a lot of confusion since there is also a corruption factor based on distance (from capital or FP).

Think of it this way -- in an empire of only 2 cities, the non-palace city will have very little rank-based corruption even if it is as far from the palace as possible; it will suffer distance corruption. In a more typical empire with more cities, the more distant cities suffer corruption based both on their distance from the capital (or the FP) and based on the number of other cities that are closer to the palace than it (rank corruption). Rank is calculated from the palce only; distance corruption is calculated from the palace or the FP, whichever is closer.

The only time build date comes into play in rank corruption is when two or more cities share the same distance from the capital (i.e., their rank would otherwise be the same) - build date then determines ranking, and if the build dates are the same, the order the cities appear in the database determines rank. I believe this is also true for captured cities (uses the date of founding rather than capture), but have not tested it and don't believe alexman has spoken definitively on it.

thanks Catt, I think that even my thick head can understand your explaination

Thanks Catt, that clears up a great misconception of mine.