Deity Praet 2

[Grashopa]

Spoiler :

Are Praets the ultimate zerg rush unit on deity? Lets find out.

Check this thread for ideas.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=449350

 

[VoiceOfUnreason]

Probably better to link to the thread?

 

[obsolete]

Oho!! What a great normalizer. OBVIOUSLY it's optimal to SETTLE IN PLACE!

SETTLE IN PLACE!!!

 

[Mylene]

What about settling on the gold? ~~
Iam sure Grashopa loved making it the perfect settle spot, and added the gold as brainfood..."should i or not..."

 

[Grashopa]

I didn't touch the starts and just took the first two. I want to see how often Praets are doable / a good idea for random starts. Clearly I would settle on the gold because we all know food is more important for deity starts

 

[Mylene]

....but ssw is a fine spot too

 

[Grashopa]

This is a fun map

 

[Keilah]

settle on top of the pigs, you aren't teching AH anytime soon

 

[Keilah]

or on the gold i guess, plenty of hills in range

 

[vranasm]

hmm can someone make something out of this? I was thinking that settling 1W is 'obvious' and right now not sure... and why in the hell so many people suggest settling on gold? is there some hidden irony or something? I don't see this.

 

[Archbob]

I'd say 1w or 1 sw

 

[Keilah]

someone a little while ago posted about his marathon huge game where he won with a really high score and opened by saying that he regenerated the map until he got a riverside plains hill gold to settle on, and at least a second luxury resource in the BFC.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=447794

there it is. He's playing HoF-style for a high score via Quechua rush which I suppose he's entitled to do, but idunno, it just seems extremely meh to me (and others apparently) to cheese so hard. 'Winning' is obviously not a challenge with the kind of starts needed for a super-high score.

 

[krikav]

We are roman heroes, go SSW and cross fingers for seafood.

 

[WelshGandalf]

Not sure you'll have time for AH, so maybe 1S as that gives more forests than 1W? Ideally should be settling on first turn as every turn will count - gotta get those praets out ASAP.

 

[MarigoldRan]

Save posted: On the right map, they're pretty damn good.

 

[MarigoldRan]

Tech order: Agriculture, BW, IW (thanks to two nearby gold mines), AH, Writing, Aesthetics.

The hill distribution was almost perfect, so I skipped granaries for a while.

Settled on the plains hill in the south for more production, REX to 4 cities. I had enough food, so there was no need to SIP.

Due to their longevity, praets are definitely an option for HOF. Once again, you need the right map. Like this one!

Spoiler :

It helped that the Frenchies didn't have Bronze or Iron. Ok, so this map is not completely representative. I think I lost maybe 4 praets. Someone else should do HAs and compare. Early scouting with warriors was important. The options were either Khmer or France, and I looked at Khmer, and I was like, "no."

 

[vranasm]

@MG
nice finally some save ;-). To be honest i don't consider this 'already won' and I think you should play it out a bit further.

Spoiler :

As I see it you start to fall a bit behind, even if getting math from the war would be OK, but other 2 Ai's start to run away a bit...

and honestly why Literature? it's very weak trade bait, you're late to it and have no marble.

I would like to see how you will wrap this... let's say post 1 AD save

 

[Grashopa]

There actually can be a huge difference from how people war, how they recover and how they finish even if several people were to go for Praets. I'm going to try to finish these games off just to give a time to compare to.

 

[MyOtherName]

'Winning' is obviously not a challenge with the kind of starts needed for a super-high score.

But the challenge isn't to won; the challenge is to get a super-high score.

 

[Keilah]

yeah i get that, still the cheese factor makes me dislike it. Gut reaction.