Different Types of Armies

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When most of us think about armies we think about warriors defending the country. This is not always the case. There are several different types of armies in the world. There are about 165 of them, but many aren't real armies. As determined by their primary role, there are essentially four types: ceremonial armies, political armies, police armies, and real armies.

For a newly independent country, having an army is like having a flag, a symbol of sovereignty, besides it looks good parading on official occasions. In addition, in many developing countries the army represents a political party, regularly staging coups, in some cases with different units espousing different political lines. This is nothing new. The Roman Empire fell partially because the professional soldiers spent too much time fighting with each other over who would run the show. Also, many armies are police forces, whose primary purpose is to keep internal order, frequently by means of massacres and other forms of terrorism against their own populations. Real armies, although they may have ceremonial, political, and police functions, are those that devote most of their time and energy to preparing for war with an external foe. Less than a third of all armies are real armies.

To some extent, the type of army a country has reflects its needs. But needs can change, and ceremonial, political, and police armies usually don't do well when confronted by a real army. Consider some recent instances: In Sri Lanka, the ceremonial army virtually disintegrated when faced by the Tamil insurgency, and quickly developed a penchant for massacre, rather than battle, which only exacerbated the situation. It took the Indian Army, a real army, over 10 years to convert the Sri Lankans into a real army. Similarly, the Lybian Army, which exists primarily as a police force, has proved itself incompetent against five opponents--Chadians, Egyptians, Tunisians, Tanzanians and French--in a series of clashes going back more than three decades. The Argentine Army, a political and police force, found in the Falklands that the British Army and Royal Marines were not quite what they were expecting, after several years of counterinsurgency warfare in which some 12,000 people died, mostly unarmed and including numerous women and children.

Of course, under pressure, an army's character can change, but this is difficult, painful and expensive. In 1948, most of the Arab armies were largely ceremonial forces with some police experience, which did them little good against Israel, with thousands of World War II veterans in its ranks. Defeat tended to politicize most of the Arab armies, in the '50s it was said that Syria had three political parties: the I Army Corps, the II Army Corps and the III Army Corps; which led to further defeats in 1956 and 1967. It was only then that the principal Arab armies began to become real armies, whereupon their tactical performance improved markedly.

Fortunately in the Westerm countries we have real armies, with uniformed leaders who understand the pitfalls of becoming some other type of army.
 
nice post, interesting theme!;)
 
Interesting topic. however, what would you classify paramilitary and guerilla armies as?
 
I would say you would also have to take into account peaseant armies, and rebellions.

Lets see.

The Spartans were the first in the Western world to emply proffessional soldiers, beforehand it was the populace that joined the army in a crisis situation.

During the middle ages, Feudal Lords would raise armies from their serfs, (little training) in a show of allegience to the King, or no allegience (revolutions)

The Renaissance saw the beginnings of new proffessional armies. Venice I think was the first but I may be wrong.

During the French Revolution nationalism gave rise to national armies, like what you would of seen during the American Civil War, World War One and World War Two.

Since then there are other groups. Such as rebellions, paramilitaries, gureillas (same thing really) terrorist organistaions (yeah they are an army of soughts) and so on.

While generally a professional national army will win against lesser opponents whom have other duties, this is not always. There are times when a national army will be beaten. Look at the VietCong's victory over the US Army. (however this may of been also due to our hippie forefathers)
 
Egyptian Army Table of Organization


Troop Types Infantry
Charioteers
Garrison/Outpost
Elite/Guard
Ship Contingent
Foreign Troops


Unit Size Division ~5000 men, 10 hosts
Host 500+ men, min. 2 companies
Company 250 men, 5 platoons
Platoon 50 men, 5 squads
Squad 10 men

Leadership
Heirarchy
King
|
__ Commander in Chief
(normally King's son) __
| |
Chief Deputy
of the Northern Corps Chief Deputy
of the Southern Corps
|__ General __|
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Scribe of Infantry
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Host Commander
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Standard Bearer
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__ Adjutant/Deputy __
| |
Scribal Admin. Combat Officers
Distribution Scribe Platoon Leader
| |
Assemblage Scribe Garrison/troop Ldr.
| |
Army Scribe Squad Leader
|
Infantryman
 
what about guerilla armies?
 
But what happens when the national army can fight guerilla-style too?

As for the VCs -- I blame it all on the hippies, and now our own defeatism. There's even a commendation from their commander thanking John Kerry for it ... *shakes head*
 
Good post.

However, just one correction:

YNCS said:
The Argentine Army, a political and police force, found in the Falklands that the British Army and Royal Marines were not quite what they were expecting, after several years of counterinsurgency warfare in which some 12,000 people died, mostly unarmed and including numerous women and children.

Not exactly. The reason that the Argentines got clobbered was becuase as they didn't really expect the British to counter-attack so quickly and feared an Chilean attack, the units sent to garrison the Falklands where third rate conscript units. Against these troops, the British commited the absolute best units they had - namely, the Royal Marines and Parachute battalions. Had the Argentines also commited their own marines and paras then the outcome of the Falklands War probably would have been very different.

However, you are right in that years of using the Army as a tool of opression doubtlessly contributed to the Argentine Junta becoming overconfident, and not seeing the need to commit their best forces.
 
Well said Senior Chief.

If one considers what Clauswitz said,
"It is clear that war is not a mere act of policy but a true political instrument, a continuation of political activity by other means"
Then armies (and navies and air forces) are means by which the political instrument is used. When you have a ceremonial force such as was found in Sri Lanka, you have political leadership that is completely clueless.
 
Sheep2 said:
While generally a professional national army will win against lesser opponents whom have other duties, this is not always. There are times when a national army will be beaten. Look at the VietCong's victory over the US Army. (however this may of been also due to our hippie forefathers)
The war was lost because of a determined enemy, bad political leadership, inability to effectively fight that kind of war, unwillingness to do what needed to be done to win, and not winning quickly enough to stem the rising tide of angry mothers who refused to risk their sons in a failing effort.

Soon terrorist armies will need to be on the list.
 
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